
Boller's numbers weren't as good
Did anybody else notice the spring
football wrap-up in Tuesday's edition of USA Today?
Under a three-column photo of Virginia quarterback Matt Schaub is a box with
Danny Sheridan's early odds on 15 Heisman Trophy candidates.
At 10-1, North Carolina State quarterback Philip Rivers is among the top seven
players on that list. A total of nine quarterbacks are on the list, including
Miami of Ohio's Ben Roethlisberger and Hawaii's Timmy Chang.
Schaub is not on the list.
I'm not saying that Schaub should be a Heisman front-runner, but he was the
first-team ACC quarterback, ahead of Rivers. Excuse me if I haven't been
paying attention, but who are Ben Roethlisberger and Timmy Chang?
If you'd given me the names for some of the other quarterbacks -- Eli Roberson
(Kansas State), John Navarre (Michigan) and Andrew Walter (Arizona State) -- I
probably could have matched them up with a college. I'd also heard of another
quarterback on the list, Cincinnati's Gino Guidugli, but only because Virginia
coach Al Groh made a pitch for him shortly after being named coach at UVa.
I don't think Groh would trade Schaub for Guidugli now. While Schaub finished
sixth in Division I-A in passing efficiency, none of the other above-mentioned
QBs was higher than Rivers at No. 13. Roethlisberger was 16th, Walter was
19th, Washington's Cody Pickett (he was 6-to-1) was 31st, Guidugli was 51st
and Chang 55th.
When you talk about the Heisman Trophy, a major consideration is name
recognition. That's why Mississippi quarterback Eli Manning is listed as the
co-favorite with Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett at 4-to-1.
But, how do Roethlisberger and Chang wind up on the list (which, by the way
included Virginia Tech running back Kevin Jones among a group at 25-to-1)? Or,
how does the list not include Tennessee quarterback Casey Clausen, coming off
a mediocre 2002 season but better-known than almost all of the others?
What set me off in the week leading up to the draft were the stories that
touted first-round NFL Draft pick Kyle Boller from California and talked about
him "blossoming" as a senior.
Here are Boller's senior numbers: 225-of-441 (53.4 percent) for 2,815 yards
and 28 touchdowns, with 10 interceptions.
Compare them to Schaub's junior numbers: 288-of-418 (68.9 percent) for 2,976
yards and 28 touchdowns, with seven interceptions.
Boller has the edge over Schaub in one area: He's quicker. Boller was faster
in the 40 than all of the other elite quarterbacks. He also has a strong arm
and reportedly can throw the ball 50 yards on one knee.
Those are two things quarterbacks do all the time in the NFL: run 40 yards and
throw off one knee.
Seriously, though, NFL scouts watching tape of Schaub could ask legitimately
if he can throw the deep ball. Schaub had one completion of more than 50 yards
during the 2002 season, a 59-yard non-scoring pass to Billy McMullen against
Florida State.
My guess is that Schaub, who is close to 6-6 and 240 pounds, has an arm to
match any of his counterparts. He certainly has a stronger arm than Rivers,
but who would know? The Cavaliers rarely throw deep because they haven't had
the kind of receivers who can beat people deep.
McMullen, a third-round draft pick of the Philadelphia Eagles, wasn't a deep
threat. Nor are the top three returning receivers -- Michael McGrew, Ryan
Sawyer and Ottowa Anderson. That's one reason that cornerback Art Thomas was
moved to wide receiver, although it would be a surprise if Thomas had a major
impact as a senior.
Questions might persist in the eyes of the scouts, but the NFL Draft and the
Heisman Trophy have nothing in common, even though Heisman Trophy winner
Carson Palmer was the first pick in the draft. The Heisman Trophy is about
winning, which is why Eli Manning probably won't win the Heisman Trophy. In
the Southeastern Conference, Mississippi won't win enough games.
Virginia is getting a lot of off-season hype, but consider the Cavaliers'
schedule, with road games at Maryland, N.C. State, North Carolina, Clemson and
South Carolina. UVa could have a better team than last fall's 9-5 Continental
Tire Bowl champions without having as good a record.
That might kill Schaub's Heisman chances but I'd still take him over Ben
Roethlisberger and Timmy Chang.
This will be the final installment of UVa Insider until August. Until then,
read Notebook Plus for a weekly dosage of Virginia, Virginia Tech and
recruiting.
Price reportedly spent time with dancer at nightclub
ESPN.com news services
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Alabama coach Mike Price met with university officials
Thursday amid revelations of a free-spending night at a topless bar in Florida
and that a young woman tried to charge more than $1,000 in food and drinks to
his hotel bill the next morning.
The fate of the former Washington State coach could be decided at a trustees
meeting on Saturday, months before he coaches his first game for the Crimson
Tide.
University President Robert Witt and athletic director Mal Moore met with Price
Thursday morning. Witt called a meeting of the board of trustees' athletics
committee and other board members for Saturday "to present and discuss his
decision regarding Price's status as head football coach," a university
statement said.
Price, 57, came under university scrutiny after spending time at a nightclub
called Arety's Angels in Pensacola, Fla., on April 16, while in town for a
pro-am golf tournament the next day.
"He was here and he was a perfect gentleman," club owner Arety Kapetanis told
The Associated Press on Thursday. "He did not leave with anyone from our club."
While at the topless club, Price bought some drinks for himself and dancers but
did not hug them, Kapetanis said. He did hug a waitress who was clothed,
however, and quickly backed off when told touching was not allowed, she said.
"He did not appear to be or act intoxicated. It was good, clean fun," Kapetanis
told the AP.
The next morning, a young woman in Price's hotel room ordered more than $1,000
in food and drinks charged to his bill _ one of everything on the menu, Andrea
Wright, assistant manager of the Crown Plaza Grand Royal, told the Montgomery
Advertiser.
Dale Peterson, manager of the hotel, declined comment when contacted by The
Associated Press Thursday. The name of the woman in Price's room was not
disclosed.
The Mobile Register, quoting four workers at the Crowne Plaza who did not want
to be identified, said the woman wanted the food placed in boxes so she could
leave with it.
The hotel contacted Price of the unusual order, and he returned later in the day
and paid the bill after the woman left, the Register said. She was not allowed
to leave with the order.
Price, who was hired in December from Washington State, is married and has two
sons on his coaching staff. He has declined to comment on his actions during the
trip.
ESPN.com's Ivan Maisel has learned that rather than go to a party for pro-am
players in the Bruno's Memorial Classic in Birmingham on Tuesday night, Price
phoned his assistant coaches, who are on the road recruiting, and apologized for
the scandal that has erupted.
"It's embarrassing," Price told one coach. "I hate it for Joyce [his wife]. I
hate it for my kids [sons Aaron and Eric are on his staff]." Given that Witt
instructed his employees to say nothing, the staff member who recounted the
conversation to ESPN.com asked to go unnamed.
Washington State sports information director Rod Commons, who worked with Price
for 26 years, told ESPN.com on Wednesday: "I've never seen any type of
inappropriate behavior. I've never seen him drunk in public. I don't know what
to think. It's got me baffled."
The reports came a day after Iowa State basketball coach Larry Eustachy was
suspended following the publication of photographs in The Des Moines Register
that showed him partying with students and kissing young women on the cheek.
Witt told The Tuscaloosa News his meeting with Price on Thursday was "very
productive." He called the ordeal "a very sad and unfortunate event."
A dancer, "Destiny" Stahl, 36, told The Birmingham News that Price spent about
$200 on her and bought drinks for and tipped other dancers, but nothing happened
beyond dancing.
Kapetanis said Stahl, who works the day shift, was still on duty when Price left
and was picked up by her husband. Price, however, returned later that night with
some friends.
Witt said he was in contact with the chancellor and university trustees and
hoped "to bring closure to this situation as soon as possible."
"This review involves careers and lives and it has been imperative that it be
thorough," he said in a statement.
He said he was unable to assemble the trustees before Saturday because some had
scheduling conflicts.
This could become yet another black mark on a Tide program which has won six
national championships but is now on NCAA probation.
The probation came after Mike DuBose was forced out during a 3-8 season in 2000,
having survived an admission to lying about his relationship with his secretary.
The university agreed to pay the woman $350,000 to settle accusations of sexual
harassment, but opted to let DuBose keep his job.
The NCAA placed the football program on five years' probation early last year,
mostly for violations that occurred during DuBose's four-year tenure.
Popular coach Dennis Franchione left the Tide in the lurch last year, bolting
for Texas A&M after winning 10 games in his second season. Alabama then turned
to Price.
Price had led Washington State to back-to-back 10-win seasons and a Rose Bowl
berth last season.
GREENSBORO -- ACC football lost a guaranteed postseason spot Thursday when the financially struggling Seattle Bowl failed to receive the official stamp of approval from an NCAA committee.
The denial of certification means the game is out of business, at least for the 2003 season, but could reapply in another year, said Monica Lunderman, an NCAA spokeswoman.
The Seattle Bowl's demise leaves the ACC with five bowl tie-ins, the same number it had in 2000 and 2001. The conference had six postseason participants in the 2001 season because Clemson secured an at-large spot in the Humanitarian Bowl.
The affiliated games are a Bowl Championship Series event for the champion and the Gator, Peach, Tangerine and Continental Tire for other qualified selections.
The 2003-04 bowl lineup has not been completed nationwide, and ACC Commissioner John Swofford said Thursday that he will pursue any opportunities that may become available to replace the Seattle tie-in. The Silicon Valley Classic in San Jose, Calif., and the Humanitarian in Boise, Idaho, are two possible options.
The NCAA bowl panel, headed by Penn State athletics director Tim Curley, cited "financial issues and failure to adhere to administrative requirements" in decertifying the Seattle game after two years. The ACC went 2-0 in the game, as Georgia Tech defeated Stanford in December 2001 and Wake Forest knocked off Oregon this past December.
The Seattle game never was on firm financial footing. Last year, it missed two deadlines to prove fiscal solvency, but received extensions and finally got the OK. The game reportedly still owes the ACC $170,000 from Wake Forest's participation in 2002.
The NCAA committee replaced the Seattle Bowl with the inaugural Fort Worth Bowl, which is expected to pair teams from Conference USA and the Big 12 on Dec. 23 in Texas.
Winds of change?
By FRANK DASCENZO : The Herald-Sun
fdascenzo@heraldsun.com
May 2, 2003 : 12:04 am ET
Remember that old line, "A picture is worth a thousand words?"
Well, picture this: Miami, with its notorious football reputation, chock full of
blinding speed at every skill position imaginable, suddenly decides to bolt the
Big East and join the ACC, as is being reportedly discussed by the hierarchy in
south Florida. Never mind who will follow.
Now picture the looks on the faces of people like Chuck Amato and Al Groh and
Ralph Friedgen. And, please, don’t leave out the Bowden boys, Bobby and Tommy.
One newspaper, The Miami Herald, cited a source close to Miami’s program as
saying the ACC is leaning toward expansion but, as usual, nobody knows when. Big
East schools, understandably, are nervous about what the Canes might decide to
do.
Syracuse’s athletics director, Jake Crouthamel, is convinced what Miami does
will determine what others might do, such as the Orangemen and Boston College
possibly following and Pittsburgh pondering a flirtation to renew its longtime
rivalry with Penn State in the Big 10.
Somewhere in the eastern United States, Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese is
fuming and wondering about the future of his league. Tranghese’s conference took
Miami when nobody else would, but in a generation where bigger is supposed to be
better, the idea of a 12-school ACC might just be appealing to the Canes.
Miami, which has been in the national championship game the last two seasons,
has dominated Big East football — 21-0 in the last three years, 27-1 since 1999
— and the Hurricanes might do the same in the ACC. Believe it. The word talent
often precedes each position on the Hurricanes’ roster. Four of their players
from the 2002 team were first-round picks in last weekend’s NFL draft, and of
the 18 Big East players selected in the first round over the last three years,
13 played for the Hurricanes. Drew Rosenhaus hangs out in Miami for a reason.
The last time a new face from Florida appeared in the ACC was in 1992, when FSU
swaggered into this conference and ruled it. The Seminoles have won every ACC
title except the one that Friedgen’s Maryland Terps managed to capture a couple
years ago.
New faces tend to make familiar faces rather look sad and tired and beaten, too.
All of this reminds me of the interview I did with Dick Sheridan in the spring
of 1993.
Sheridan was scheduled to enter his eighth season as N.C. State’s coach. His
Wolfpack teams won 52 times but never captured an ACC championship, and the
largest bowl they played in was the Gator, which they lost to Florida, 27-10. It
was Sheridan’s last game as Wolfpack coach.
"We’d have won the ACC title had Florida State not come into the league in
1992," Sheridan correctly emphasized.
It was a valid point and Sheridan knew as much. From the moment the Seminoles
entered the ACC in 1992, they made sure the football race was for second place.
Dial up Mack Brown, at Texas, and ask him about it.
On June 29, 1993, Sheridan shocked the ACC by resigning, citing health reasons.
Nobody knows what to make of this expansion talk except that you know there’s
something to it. Read all the lines and you come to the conclusion that if the
Hurricanes want to leave the Big East, the ACC would put up a vote — and quicker
than you might think — about accepting their green and orange and white
uniforms.
Not a single team finishing the football season in the top 10. Not a single team in the Final Four -- or even Elite Eight -- in men's basketball. That double dip hadn't happened since 1979 in the ACC's marquee sports, so suffice it to say 2002-03 wasn't one for the ACC trophy case.
But we better make room for next season.
The single most amazing sports season in ACC history is headed our way, and like one of those tropical storms 900 miles away off Cape Hatteras, you can see it coming from a distance.
The ACC probably won't sweep national championships in football, men's basketball and women's basketball in 2003-04 -- but if it happens, remember where you first read the possibility.
When was the last time the ACC has had four football teams ranked in the top 10 in the same season? Never, not once in the league's first 50 years, but it could happen as the ACC turns 51.
How ever they finish in the ACC standings, look for Maryland, Virginia and N.C. State to pierce the national top 10 at some point, and for two or three to linger. Don't be surprised if Florida State also makes a top 10 cameo, though by mid-season the Seminoles should be out of ACC contention, which will show just how far ACC football has come in a decade.
Just about the time those schools are receiving bids to some of the biggest bowl games, ACC basketball will be revving up.
Wait until you see ACC basketball. The Big Four will be the Big Four for the first time since 1991, the last time Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest and N.C State finished 1-2-3-4 -- in whichever order you prefer -- in the ACC. That also was the last time all four teams reached the NCAA tournament.
The Blue Devils, Tar Heels and Wolfpack are loaded, all with potentially top 10 teams, but anyone who counts out Wake Forest and coach Skip Prosser is brave or naïve.
On the women's side, Duke surely will enter the season ranked in the national top three, and with four starters back plus another awesome recruiting class coming in, plus the return of injured superstar-in-the-making Monique Currie ... you get the picture. Maybe 2003-04 will be the season Gail Goestenkors will win her first NCAA title.
Or maybe the Blue Devils aren't even the best team in the immediate area. North Carolina returns 11 of the top 13 players from a 28-6 team, and the best player on campus might not even be on campus yet. Ivory Latta, who scored more than 4,000 points for York (S.C.) Comprehensive High, will be the ACC's best freshman since Alana Beard and the Tar Heels' best freshman since Marion Jones. Or Choo Choo Justice.
We're hyperbolic. We're hyperventilating. It goes without saying we're hyped, we're happy, we're hot for the 2003-04 ACC season to get here.
Clemson football will still stink.
ACC boundaries
By LUCIANA CHAVEZ, Staff Writer
The University of Miami is considering a move to the ACC that could prompt other
Big East schools to follow suit, even as officials at ACC schools disagree on
the merits of expansion.
"I don't know all the facts, but apparently discussions are going on with
Miami," Marc Boehm, Pittsburgh's interim athletics director, said Wednesday.
"They hold the keys, and everyone else is rock-solid in the conference."
Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese has said that the ACC has made overtures to
Miami, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Syracuse and Virginia Tech.
ACC commissioner John Swofford has responded that some schools -- he wouldn't
identify them -- have approached the ACC about joining but that the conference
has made no formal offers.
When Miami trustees met Friday in Florida, they asked athletics director Paul
Dee to make a presentation, including the views of football coach Larry Coker,
on the benefits and drawbacks of leaving the Big East for the ACC.
Dee and university president Donna Shalala declined comment, and since trading
public barbs 10 days ago, Swofford and Tranghese have refused to discuss the
issue.
But like Boehm, Syracuse AD Jake Crouthamel indicated that Big East schools are
waiting to see what Miami does.
"If I'm asked right now by John Swofford, do I want to be a member of the ACC,
the answer is no," Crouthamel said. "If I'm a second or third call [after
another school has left], I certainly have to reconsider that."
Said Boehm: "If Miami left, we would have to think things through very seriously
and look at a lot of different options."
Although Crouthamel said "we've been dealing with this for six years," the
timing couldn't be better for the issue to move up to periscope depth. ACC
athletics directors will hold their spring meeting May 11-14 on Amelia Island,
Fla. Their Big East counterparts will do the same May 17-21 in Ponte Vedra, Fla.
League membership is sure to be on the agenda at both meetings.
The addition of three Big East schools could enhance the profile and financial
strength of the ACC, particularly by allowing the ACC to stage a conference
football championship game. The NCAA requires that a league have 12 schools to
hold a title game in football.
Miami would bring arguably the nation's top college football program into the
ACC fold, while Boston College, Pitt and Syracuse would open new television
markets to the league. Virginia Tech would fit geographically, with Virginia
already in the league.
All that wouldn't make expansion right for the conference, said North Carolina
athletics director Dick Baddour, who questioned whether additional members would
affect, for example, the annual home-and-home series between old basketball
rivals.
"My position on expansion has been consistent, and that is I think we're at a
good number," Baddour said. "I think we have a really strong culture, and I
enjoy the round-robin in basketball and enjoy playing everyone in football. I
would be on the side that we should be very careful about doing anything that
would alter the culture of the league."
Duke AD Joe Alleva, another skeptic, said expanding the ACC would make sense
only if each member's piece of the revenue pie would grow as a result. The cozy
league handed out close to $9.7 million to each of its nine schools in 2002-03
-- more than any other Division I conference was able to distribute, according
to the ACC.
The ACC probably would have to bring in an additional $20 million to $30 million
a year to maintain that share for 12 schools instead of nine.
ACC revenue comes mostly from its television contracts, the Bowl Championship
Series games in football, and the ACC and NCAA tournaments in basketball. The
total fluctuates each year, depending on the league's bowl and NCAA appearances.
The ACC's pot would increase automatically with an additional three schools
because the NCAA gives money to the conferences based on the number of teams
each one has.
Also, a conference title game in football could be worth $5.5 million to $12
million, based on similar events. The SEC championship game, for example,
brought in $12 million last year. The Big 12 title game is worth $5.5 million to
$7 million annually.
Obviously, a larger league would provide better marketing opportunities, and
more teams could translate into more NCAA and bowl appearances, which would mean
more cash.
It's also a good bet that the ACC's television contracts would be restructured
if the league expands. The football contract with Raycom-Jefferson Pilot runs
through 2005, The ACC's basketball contracts with Raycom-Jefferson Pilot and Fox
Sports Net run through 2010.
"There are benefits related to revenue production and adding a football
championship," Virginia AD Craig Littlepage said. "But there are other issues
relative to scheduling and time spent away from classes [because of travel].
"If you look at past expansion, the league has gone to Atlanta and Florida
State, and those additions have brought tremendous credibility and improvement.
I guess the focus of the league, in terms of the roots in North Carolina, should
not be the sole determinant as far as reviewing the benefits of potential
expansion."
While Littlepage added that he has not made up his mind about expansion, Florida
State President T.K. Wetherell said he supports it, particularly if it involves
bigger TV markets.
"We've always believed the ACC should expand, and I haven't seen anything to the
contrary that would make us think otherwise," said Wetherell, adding that the
prospect of having to face Miami more than once in a season didn't faze him.
"We already play Miami, so that's no big deal to us, and obviously we've played
a number of SEC teams," Wetherell said. "We play Notre Dame. Those teams are
already on our schedule."
It would take the approval of seven of the ACC's nine school presidents for the
conference to proceed with expansion. No others returned phone calls from The
News & Observer.
Maryland athletics director Deborah Yow and Wake Forest AD Rob Wellman declined
to comment. N.C. State's Lee Fowler, Clemson's Terry Don Phillips and Georgia
Tech's Dave Braine didn't return calls.
The fear of being left behind can be a major motivating factor for any league
considering expansion, said Lehigh AD Joseph Sterrett, who teaches a course on
the economics of the sports industry.
"You start to look at the long run, like if Miami might be an ACC member, people
start thinking, 'If we don't take them, somebody else might. What would we have
lost. How would we regret that?' " Sterrett said. "And you think, 'What would
Miami do for ACC football?' That's a Florida marketplace; it's an economic
consideration. But that keeping-up-with-the-Joneses is very real. And this is
the time of year that people get together and ponder these things."
Tranghese has accused the ACC of pondering these things, indeed of trying "to
disrupt our conference," for a long time.
It's all about survival -- and money, said David Carter, founder of The Sports
Business Group, a consulting firm based in the Los Angeles area. The nine-team
ACC is competing with the bigger SEC and Big 12, with 12 teams apiece, and the
inaccurately labeled Big Ten is reportedly interested in adding a 12th member,
too.
"Obviously, going from nine to 12 allows you to follow what has become the trend
of establishing the super-conference," Carter said. "Even back in ACC territory,
it's all about money. Nine to 12 allows a lot of different revenue
opportunities."
And that may prove too juicy for the ACC to resist, Carter said.
"I think there's a lot to be said for a pre-emptive move. It's sort of like
musical chairs. If the music stops and you are a conference on the outside
looking in, that's going to put a strain on the ADs who chose not to expand."