
COMMENTARY
ACC rumors are
still just a lot of talk
By DOUG DOUGHTY
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Better to be half-cocked than not cocked at all. That's why I've waited 10 days to formulate an opinion on the much-debated expansion of the ACC.
Oh, I've had a few opinions, but they last only until I make my next phone call.
To read some accounts, Miami and two other Big East teams will be joining the ACC any minute. However, there are other people - longtime and knowledgeable ACC observers - who say it will never happen.
Call that the "no way" faction. There are three other camps: likely, unlikely and possible. At the start of the day Friday, I was in the unlikely camp. Now, I've switched to the possible side.
That's taking a stand!
There was a time, two years ago, when I was blamed by fellow journalists for starting the Miami expansion rumors. All I had done was mention in an Internet column that the rumors existed and did not attach much significance to them.
I was ready to dismiss the current rumors with similar indifference, but have been advised otherwise. One way or another, the Miami issue will be resolved by the end of the summer. It will not drag on.
Although the ACC could expand to 10 teams and invite only Miami, more likely is a scenario that the ACC would expand to 12 teams. News stories Friday in the Miami Herald and Charlotte Observer indicated that Syracuse and Boston College would be the Hurricanes' partners in the move.
The perception is that Miami, Boston College and Syracuse would deliver coveted TV markets, but ACC interest in Virginia Tech is more sincere than some beat reporters would believe.
Associate commissioner Mike Finn, a member of the ACC inner circle, has a degree from Tech. Dave Braine, the Georgia Tech athletic director, previously was the AD at Tech. Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips is an ex-Hokies football coach.
The theory has been advanced that Tech, with more than 5,000 annual graduates, is a market unto itself.
Some people would say the main issue here is money. Would increased revenues created by a football championship game offset the earnings that the nine current ACC members would have to share with 1-3 new members?
Not now, it wouldn't. To make up for the shared revenue, the ACC would have to generate an additional $25 million, but the ACC isn't the Southeastern Conference. In the current market, an ACC football championship wouldn't generate more than $15 million.
"But, those are current dollars," I've been told. "You've got to look down the road 10 years."
Believe me, with four kids to put through college, I've been looking down the road 10 years and I don't see Fat City.
In the end, it won't come down to money. It will come down to votes. A new member would need the approval of seven of nine schools. No one thinks Duke will vote for expansion. North Carolina has reservations about the money.
Virginia athletic director Craig Littlepage has expressed interest in expansion, but the athletic directors don't vote. The presidents do. Publicly, UVa president John Casteen has to support the Hokies' candidacy, but what does he do when the curtain closes in the voting booth?
Another thing: How does all this happen? Does Miami apply for ACC membership, knowing there is a possibility it will be voted down? Could the ACC vote on expansion without specifying the teams?
Let's not be naive. Deals can be cut outside the public spotlight, but that will be a lot tougher after a Final Four tirade by Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese. Now, people are watching.
What's that I said about ACC expansion being possible? That was four hours ago. I think I'm back to unlikely.
Virginia cautious about expansion
Craig Littlepage says much is yet to be determined before the ACC makes a
decision on expansion.
By MARK BERMAN
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Miami has a decision to make. So does the ACC.
The ACC has been chatting with Miami as it ponders expansion. If the nine-member
ACC adds three schools, it will be able to split into two divisions and hold a
potentially lucrative football title game. It is uncertain how many ACC members
favor expansion, but Virginia isn't against exploring the idea.
"I'm curious and interested in the benefits of conference expansion," Virginia
athletic director Craig Littlepage said. "Can the ACC thrive or sustain itself
at nine members or does the future dictate that the ACC have more than nine
members in terms of moving forward and enhancing its stature as a major
conference?"
If Miami jumps to the ACC, the ACC would presumably add two other Big East
schools so it can have 12 members. The fates of Virginia Tech and the other Big
East schools rest with Miami's decision.
"There's only one school that's driving this, and that's Miami. The rest of us
react," Syracuse athletic director Jake Crouthamel said Thursday. "We're waiting
for Miami."
The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported Wednesday that Miami athletic director
Paul Dee, football coach Larry Coker and women's volleyball coach Nicole Welsh
met with that school's board of trustees last Friday to discuss the issue of
whether to jump to the ACC.
"I gave them [the board members] an update," Dee said in Thursday's Miami
Herald. "It was not for the purpose of getting a vote."
Littlepage said the ACC has to decide whether staying at nine members is "good
enough to continue to be an elite conference nationally." The ACC has to be
willing to adapt, said Littlepage, but he does have concerns.
"The idea of expansion interests me, but it would have to be for the right
reasons," Littlepage said. "Some of the shortcomings of expansion would have to
be addressed related to travel, related to scheduling, related to financial
impact, related to welfare of our student-athletes and missed class time."
Littlepage's other concerns include how ACC men's basketball tournament tickets
would be distributed and if all 12 teams would participate in that tournament.
"There are some things that are unique to the ACC that become extremely
difficult as far as having 12 members as opposed to nine," he said.
Littlepage said UVa yields between $7.5 million and $8 million per year from ACC
revenue-sharing. Adding more schools would mean less money for Virginia.
Expansion might also mean UVa will have to spend more money to send its teams on
road games.
There are financial pluses to expansion, though. TV networks and cable channels
might pay even more money for the rights to air ACC football and basketball
games. A football title game could also be a financial bonanza.
"It all comes down to sponsorship and television, but certainly you're talking
about the potential for millions of dollars institutionally" per school for a
title game, Littlepage said.
If the NCAA gets tougher about the level of progress athletes must make toward
their degrees, Littlepage might be reluctant to make UVa athletes miss more
class time by traveling greater distances to road games.
"Academic reform and conference expansion could be mutually exclusive,"
Littlepage said. "When you look at the opportunities for revenue generation of a
football playoff game, the rewards are pretty evident, but there are some costs
that go beyond just the financial cost and they relate to some of the welfare
elements about ... increased travel, the adverse impact potentially it might
have on academic performance."
Crouthamel has said Miami's departure would result in the Big East losing its
Bowl Championship Series berth. That's why if the ACC takes Miami, then Virginia
Tech and Syracuse would be interested in joining the ACC. The danger for Tech is
the ACC could take Miami, Syracuse and Boston College, leaving the Hokies out in
the cold.
Littlepage said he wouldn't plead Tech's case to his fellow ACC members.
"There wouldn't be any lobbying that we would do on any one institution's
behalf," Littlepage said. "If Virginia Tech is going to be a candidate for
expansion, they would need to articulate that. If the ACC decides it wants to
expand, there are a lot of good reasons to consider that. I think Virginia Tech
has some very positive qualities."
Seven of the nine ACC schools would have to vote in favor of expansion.
"Our conference has never reached a consensus on expanding beyond our current
nine members, but I do believe that our institutions feel it is a subject that
should not be ignored," ACC commissioner John Swofford said in a statement. "Our
feeling is that if we are to stay at nine members, it should be a proactive
decision, not one of neglect."
Littlepage said the ACC has talked about expansion off and on for the last five
or six years. If the college landscape shifts, the ACC might wish it had done
more than just talk. The ACC's pool of prospective members could shrink if the
11-member Big Ten or 12-member Southeastern Conference acts before the ACC.
"I don't look at this in terms of what other conferences are going to be doing
or whether someone might beat the ACC to the punch," Littlepage said. "It's what
is in the best interest of the ACC in terms of will expansion help or hurt, can
the ACC sustain itself and thrive by remaining at nine or by moving to 12?
That's what has been the discussion."
While the ACC and Miami ponder their futures, the rest of the Big East waits.
"We've been waiting for Miami for six years," Crouthamel said. "Twice Miami has
said no [to leaving the Big East] - two different presidents."
"I feel confident the Big East is going to stay together and be strong," West
Virginia athletic director Ed Pastilong said. "I don't see a departure by
anyone."
Orange not going anywhere yet
NCAA finds Iowa State guilty of rules violation
Associated Press
DES MOINES, Iowa -- Larry Eustachy, already suspended by Iowa State for his
behavior at late-night parties, was suspended for one game by the NCAA on Friday
for a secondary rules violation.
The NCAA found Iowa State guilty because Eustachy twice paid players for making
free throws. The university was ordered to suspend Eustachy for one game, but
that might become moot because athletic director Bruce Van De Velde has
recommended Eustachy be fired.
Iowa State had reported the violations to the NCAA and will not appeal the
ruling, said associate athletic director Bill Smith, the university's compliance
coordinator.
Van De Velde's recommendation to fire Eustachy followed newspaper reports that
he drank and partied with college students after games in Columbia, Mo., and
Manhattan, Kan.
Photos from the Columbia party show Eustachy kissing young women and being
kissed by them on the cheek. Eustachy disclosed this week that he is an
alcoholic and is seeking treatment.
The payments to the players -- the most anyone received was $20 -- took place
during the 2002-03 season. Van De Velde said the violations, while troubling,
had nothing to do with his recommendation to fire Eustachy, who has until Monday
to appeal.
"This was not the decision maker," Van De Velde said Friday night.
The university reported the violations to the NCAA and sent the organization a
report of its own investigation on March 27.
In that report, the university imposed its own penalties:
A letter of reprimand to Eustachy and a freeze on his salary for the fiscal year
starting July 1.
A letter of reprimand to Bob Sundvold, the basketball program's administrative
assistant.
Requiring the basketball staff to attend educational sessions on NCAA
compliance.
Reinforcing to players the importance of recognizing potential violations and
then reporting them.
The NCAA accepted those penalties and added the one-game suspension. The
findings, received by the university on Wednesday, also said the NCAA was
"extremely concerned" by Eustachy's actions and said he should "avoid any
further similar violations."
"We've self-reported and there are no major sanctions on the institution other
than the suspension of our basketball coach for one game," Van De Velde said.
"But it does put our program under a microscope and the NCAA had articulated
that in their letter back to us."
Eustachy would lose about $8,000 because of the sanctions, Iowa State said. He
is paid about $1.1 million a year.
The NCAA agreed with Iowa State's findings that Eustachy paid a player, whose
name was blacked out in the report, $20 for making a free throw in Iowa State's
74-70 victory over Baylor on Feb. 1.
According to the report, the player made a free throw to win the game. In the
game, Iowa State secured the victory with one free throw by Marcus Jefferson and
two by Jake Sullivan.
On Feb. 13, Iowa State's report said Eustachy had his team play a game of
"cutthroat" free throw shooting at practice and the winner would receive $10.
Five players received $10 each for winning their contests, the NCAA said.
Eustachy told a trainer to take the $10 out of the players' meal money so it
would not be a violation, the report said. But the report said the trainer
misunderstood and nothing was deducted from the meal money.
The university began its investigation Feb. 19 and two days later, declared the
five players ineligible for the Cyclones' Feb. 22 home game with Kansas State.
But the players repaid the money and were allowed to play, the university said.
Smith said the violations were reported by someone in the athletic department,
but he could not reveal that person's name.
"I have to protect the confidentiality of the athletic department staff member
who brought that information to me," Smith said.
Van De Velde said he was upset that someone other than Eustachy reported the
violations.
"Any time cash is exchanged and you have to learn about it through other people,
then you get concerned because you wonder what else is out there that hasn't
come to you from other people," Van De Velde said.
"If a coach had come to me and said I want to tell you about this, it wouldn't
have bothered as much. But I had to learn from other sources. That really
concerns me."
The athletic department brought in an outside consultant to help in its
investigation. Van De Velde estimated the investigation cost the department from
$5,000 to $6,000.
On Friday, students demonstrated again in support of Eustachy.
Joined by members of the basketball team, about 300 students displayed pro-Eustachy
T-shirts and posters as they protested outside the office of the university
president. It was their fourth demonstration in two days.
Also Friday, assistant coach Steve Barnes denied using threats or intimidation
to rally support for Eustachy. Barnes was suspended with pay Thursday for making
what the university said were threatening remarks against school and athletic
officials in a telephone call to a player's parents.
Another assistant, Randy Brown, is facing federal child pornography charges and
is to be tried June 2. Brown has been on leave since Jan. 29.
The ACC celebrates its 50th birthday May 8 with an outside chance of giving itself a spectacular present: the University of Miami.
According to sources in North Carolina and Florida, ACC Commissioner John Swofford is urging league presidents to approve expansion while lobbying Miami to come aboard.
The ACC expects a resolution in the next two or three weeks, sources said, with an answer -- but only if Miami says yes -- possible as early as next week. In that event the league would announce the addition of Miami, the 2001 NCAA football champion, at Sedgefield Country Club outside Greensboro, where the league was founded May 8, 1953.
If Miami hasn't agreed to join the ACC by then, the league will continue to pursue the Hurricanes while going forward with its original plan for May 8 at Sedgefield, a modest celebration of the league's 50th anniversary.
In 1953 the ACC had an original membership of seven (Virginia came on later that year to make eight). If Miami comes aboard, the ACC probably won't stop at 10.
The league's goal is 12 teams, enough to hold a championship game in football while providing negotiating leverage after its current television contract expires in 2005. After Miami, the ACC's targets would be Big East colleagues Syracuse and Boston College, with Pittsburgh and Virginia Tech outside possibilities.
The next ACC meetings are scheduled for May 11-14 when athletics directors meet in Amelia Island, Fla., but sources say Miami could be invited to join before then. When Florida State became the league's ninth team in 1991, for example, most negotiations were handled by phone among presidents.
Swofford must clear a few roadblocks to make Miami the 10th ACC team, mainly "yes" votes from seven of the ACC's nine presidents. According to two sources, Duke and North Carolina are against expansion, while a handful of schools are on the fence. Clemson, Florida State and Georgia Tech are in favor. No ACC president returned a call seeking comment Thursday.
Miami athletics director Paul Dee made a presentation last week to the UM Board of Trustees about a potential move to the ACC, including a contribution from football coach Larry Coker.
"The (trustees) were asking where we were with this," Dee told the Miami Herald. "I gave them an update.
"It was not for the purpose of getting a vote."
Swofford has been working quietly at the highest levels of the ACC to get expansion approved, telling league presidents that Miami alone, with its current football excellence, would bring in close to $30 million a year in revenue.
Most league officials, even someone as highly placed as North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams, have been kept out of the loop.
"I had no clue ... no clue," Williams said Thursday. "I didn't know (expansion) discussions were even going on."
Forte implicated in assault of UNC football player
By NEIL AMATO : The Herald-Sun
namato@heraldsun.com
May 3, 2003 : 12:50 am ET
Former North Carolina basketball player Joseph Forte has been implicated in the
reported assault of a UNC football player at Woollen Gym.
Campus authorities are trying to locate Forte, said Maj. Jeff McCracken of UNC
Police. Forte, who left school in 2001 after his sophomore season for the NBA,
has not been charged in the Thursday afternoon incident.
James Gibson, a reserve fullback on the football team, suffered "severe
lacerations," according to a police incident report.
McCracken said the incident happened in front of numerous witnesses during or
after a basketball pickup game at Woollen Gym.
McCracken said police were in the early stages of the investigation as they
tried to interview witnesses and Forte.
Gibson, a sophomore from Alexandria, Va., and Forte could not be reached for
comment. Gibson, 20, has played two seasons for the Tar Heels, mainly on special
teams after joining the team as a walk-on in the fall of 2001.
Forte, 22, faces gun and drug charges after being stopped two weeks ago for
speeding in Maryland. The Greenbelt, Md., native, a reserve guard for the
Seattle SuperSonics, was arrested after a trooper smelled marijuana and searched
Forte’s car.
Police in Maryland said more than 20 grams of marijuana were found along with a
.22-caliber pistol and an ammunition clip.
Recent reports and allegations that Florida State football players may be exchanging memorabilia for cash didn't catch athletic department officials by surprise this week.
Compliance officials were already familiar with the rumors that Grady C. Irvin Jr., the St. Petersburg attorney who represents former FSU quarterback Adrian McPherson, made public Wednesday morning outside a Tallahassee courthouse. Irvin said he heard that players received cash for signed memorabilia at R&R Truck and Accessories in Tallahassee. That allegation was followed by a media report Thursday that Collector's Attic Inc., a company that shares at least two corporate officers with R&R, successfully auctioned the ACC championship rings of two players, including current defensive end Willie Jones.
Florida State president T.K. Wetherell said he is interested in what information Irvin may have regarding the R&R allegations. FSU, which is investigating the rumors, has sent a letter to Irvin asking him to provide any information regarding the issue, according to Wetherell.
FSU athletic department officials were criticized by local law enforcement officials for the way they handled gambling allegations regarding McPherson. Wetherell, as the new university president, appears to be hands-on regarding the latest rumors.
"We assume A.D. is telling him all kind of things, so if that's happening, we want to know that, too," Wetherell said. "Then we need to substantiate it or not. That's where we are.
"What (Irvin) is trying to do is move the debate from whether his guy is guilty or not to any other problem. Maybe there is another problem; maybe there isn't. I don't know. It seems to me his issue is defending his client, not casting stones. I think it was more a news conference than a court pleading."
To receive either cash, merchandise or services for signed memorabilia would be in violation of a student-athlete's amateur status, according to NCAA rules, if it constitutes using "athletics skill for pay in that sport."
FSU seniors are allowed to keep their helmet, shoulder pads and the jerseys they used as parting gifts. While in school, players are only allowed to keep bowl jerseys. It's up to each school to determine what items can be turned over to student-athletes without reimbursement.
The matter of selling championship and bowl rings is not as clear under NCAA guidelines, according to one state compliance officer. The NCAA does not specifically address the selling of rings in its by-laws. But according to NCAA by-law 16.12.1 a benefit "is not a violation of NCAA rules if it is demonstrated that the same benefit is generally available to the institution's students and their relatives or friends."
"There's the view that this is his personal property and he can do with it what he wants ... or no, he can't, because he's an athlete," the official said.
The NCAA did not respond to a request by the Democrat on whether there is a compensation limit that current athletes can receive for rings and school-issued athletic gear. There is no violation if a student-athlete's eligibility has expired, but because Jones was a redshirt freshman last season it could become a compliance issue. A NCAA official confirmed Friday that the organization was aware of the fact that Jones had sold his 2002 ACC Championship ring.
The two ACC rings sold for nearly $1,500 and just over $1,000, respectively. It is not known how much Jones received for his ring or if he sold it to either Brian or Regan Hobbs of Collector's Attics Inc. Their father is prominent FSU booster Ronald Hobbs. Jones or the Hobbs brothers could not be reached.
The rings, according to FSU assistant athletic director Greg Phillips, cost the school $277 each.
Bob Minnix, FSU associate athletic director in charge of compliance, was not available Friday. But he told the Democrat previously that his staff routinely checks eBay for FSU items available for auction. In addition to weekly checks, his staff checks pawn shops and has visited the Collector's Attic, the area's best-known sports memorabilia store.
FSU is looking into the auction of the two rings and whether their sale violates NCAA rules.
One collector sends e-mails to all members of a national championship team offering to buy their rings. Several FSU players confirmed having received such an e-mail in the past.
"This is not the first time a ring has popped up," on FSU official said.
To the point, two 1999 FSU national championship rings were on the eBay Web site Friday. One was being sold by a person who went by Jaxnole2003. Another seller, which also offered championship rings from Miami and Oklahoma, guaranteed the ring was from one of the six FSU players selected in last weekend's NFL Draft. Bids are up to $2,500 with nine days left.
"I would never sell my national championship ring," Brett Williams said. "It means too much to me."
The other drafted players could not be reached.