
Scattershooting around the ACC, while scratching my head over UVa’s
delay in hiring Mike Cubbage ...
What seemed to be a no-brainer has turned into a long process. Yes, Cubbage, a
local legend and UVa alum, wants the job.
Boston newspapers have documented that Virginia wants its coach on campus in
July but that Cubbage doesn’t want to leave the Red Sox in a lurch during a
pennant race. You just don’t replace third base coaches, particularly of
Cubby’s quality, in the middle of a season.
Personally, I think having Cubbage hired in July and reporting later in the
year makes more sense. He can have a huge impact on recruiting by calling up
prospects from the dugout at Fenway Park, Yankee Stadium, or Camden Yards than
some assistant coach that no one has ever heard of can make in person.
Any good assistant coach can keep things in line until Cubbage reports
full-time. Isn’t it worth waiting a few months to insure UVa’s baseball
future?
An easy choice
Who do you think Cavalier fans would rather have coaching their baseball
program, a loyal alum, the guy who signed the first baseball scholarship in
UVa history, a guy with a mind-blowing resume and a success story, who could
fill the stands at the new stadium and bring in the best recruits from the
mid-Atlantic, or an assistant coach from Notre Dame, who has never been a head
coach before, has no UVa or ACC ties?
I have received tons of email over the past few weeks from UVa fans who were
upset about the school’s stance on ACC expansion. Some of them threatened to
withdraw their contributions, not only to the athletic department but to the
school in general.
One loyal contributor e-mailed me Thursday and said that if the school turns
its back on Cubbage, much the same way the school did to Barry Parkhill in an
embarrassing situation back in the 1980s, then he would stop his
contributions. This guy gives big bucks.
UVa did the right thing by eventually bringing a local legend, Parkhill, into
the program and has never regretted it. Will Virginia be smart enough to do
the same to another local legend?
The 12th team
So much for the Kentucky idea.
That one was shot down pretty fast on Thursday when UK president Lee Todd said
the Wildcats will not be changing addresses.
“The University of Kentucky is a charter member of the Southeastern Conference
and is very proud of its partnership in the SEC,” Todd said. “The university
has no plans to change that relationship.”
One ACC source told this columnist on Thursday that even with C.M. Newton at
UK, the league didn’t stand much of a chance at getting the Wildcats.
Several readers have suggested Louisville as a possibility, but I haven’t
heard that name brought up once in discussions with ACC honchos.
Notre Dame, however, is a different matter. The ACC has made it clear that it
would love to have the Irish on board. Ironically, the Golden Domer’s contract
with NBC expires at the
same time the ACC’s TV football contracts end, and there could be a new player
involved: the Fox network, which doesn’t seem to mind flinging ridiculous
amounts of money around to get what it wants.
Hokie Pokie. Couldn’t resist printing this version of the Virginia Tech
song after the twists and turns by the Hokies during the entire expansion
mess.
Believe it or not, it was composed, I’m told, by a Hokie fan whose sense of
humor is reflected in his own lyrics to the song:
You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out, you join a big lawsuit
and you yell and scream and pout. Then you do the Hokie-Pokie and you turn
yourself around. That’s what it’s all about.
You send your governor in, the Orange and Eagles out, a little blackmail
works, and you celebrate and shout. You do the Hokie-Pokie and you turn
yourself around. That’s what it’s all about.
You put your lawyers in, you take your lawyers out, you join the ACC and you
shake it all about. You do the Hokie-Pokie and you turn yourself around.
That’s what it’s all about.
You stick your knife right in, you pull your bloody knife out, right in the
Big East’s back and you “twist” it all about. You do the Hokie-Pokie and you
sell your brothers out. That’s what it’s all about.
The field for a 12th team in the ACC is wide open
By ED MILLER , The Virginian-Pilot
© July 4, 2003
Having arrived with great difficulty at 11 teams, ACC officials insist they are
in no hurry to add a 12th.
“We’re going to take a rest,” said G. Wayne Clough, president of Georgia Tech.
But you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone in college athletics who doubts that
the conference will one day welcome a 12th member, perhaps as soon as next year.
The ACC sees 12 as its Manifest Destiny, and until it reaches that number, rival
conferences have to wonder where the ACC’s next incursion will be.
“I’d say the ACC will try and recruit somebody from the SEC. Maybe Florida,
Kentucky or South Carolina,” Arkansas athletic director Frank Broyles told the
Associated Press earlier this week. Broyles said he had no evidence to back up
his hunch. But in this new open season of college athletics, it’s prudent to be
paranoid. “Watch your back” could be the catch phrase of the times.
In addition to the three SEC schools mentioned by Broyles, other names being
floated include Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College, Penn State, Louisville and
East Carolina.
And, of course, Notre Dame.
“We’re all looking at Notre Dame,” FSU president T.K. Wetherell told the South
Florida Sun-Sentinel. “The question is going to be, 'How do you work this deal?’
The ACC and the Big Ten are clearly going to start courting Notre Dame.”
The ACC and Notre Dame have talked before, however. In the end, the Fighting
Irish football program, secure in its $9 million-a-year deal with NBC, chose to
remain independent.
Notre Dame’s agreement with NBC expires in two years. Ratings were up 36 percent
last year over the previous season, according to Business Week, and with the
program on the rise under coach Tyrone Willingham, Notre Dame could be in
position to negotiate another lucrative contract.
Still, much can change in two years. Notre Dame is a member of the Big East in
all sports other than football. If the Big East appears unstable, Notre Dame
might consider compromising its football freedom for the comfort of a strong
all-sports conference.
Can the ACC afford to wait out the Irish?
Much will depend on whether the NCAA grants the conference permission to hold a
lucrative football championship game. The ACC plans to ask for a waiver to the
current rule, which requires a conference to have 12 teams to hold a
championship football game.
If the ACC gets its title game and the cash that comes with it, it can afford to
be choosy about its 12th member. If not, the league would be in more of a hurry
to add a 12th team.
Clough is a member of the 18-person board that would decide whether to change
the bylaw requiring 12 teams for a title game. “Clearly, I would be supportive
of it,” he said.
A quick look at the possible candidates for the 12th spot:
Notre Dame: The Irish are the ultimate prize and would make the ACC the top
conference in the nation. But Notre Dame has prospered as an independent. And if
the Irish choose to join a conference, the Big Ten is a more natural fit.
Penn State: If they were to leave the Big Ten, the Nittany Lions might be more
inclined to join the Big East, home of longtime rivals Pittsburgh and West
Virginia.
Kentucky: The Wildcats bring great basketball tradition. But president Lee Todd
says UK, a charter member of the Southeastern Conference, has no plans to leave.
Florida: The ACC already now has two of the Sunshine State’s Big 3. Adding
Florida would lock up the state.
South Carolina: The Gamecocks left the ACC once. Has anyone missed them?
Louisville: The Cardinals boast a top-shelf basketball program and an improving
football team. But the Big East likely will come after them hard.
Boston College and Syracuse: Burned once, would either school be willing to
listen to the ACC again?
Pittsburgh: See Syracuse and BC above. Also, if the Big East survives, the
Panthers are positioned to be a major player.
East Carolina: Pirate fans would crawl from Greenville to Greensboro for a
chance to join the ACC, but why add another North Carolina team?
Tech's Olympic sports brace for ACC challenge
From golf to soccer to baseball, competition will be stiff in the Hokies' new conference.
By RANDY KING
THE ROANOKE TIMES
While recruiting top talent and travel will be much easier in the ACC, Virginia Tech's 18 Olympic sports teams will face much tougher competition in their new league.
"No doubt about it," said men's soccer coach Oliver Weiss, "we're all going to have step things up."
Weiss should know. He was an assistant coach for North Carolina's 2001 national champion men's soccer squad.
"I think we'll be challenged," Weiss said. "I think every coach here will look forward to having a winning season within the ACC, which I think would be a good accomplishment right away."
Unlike in football and, perhaps, in women's basketball, Tech will find winning any league titles soon in the ACC to be a Herculean task. The Hokies won only one conference title - men's golf - last season in the Big East, a league that hardly compares with the ACC when it comes to the nonrevenue sports.
When the ACC began to take a hard look at annexing Tech a few weeks ago, league officials let Hokies athletic director Jim Weaver know point-blank that they wanted a guarantee of a strong commitment to the Olympic sports from the Hokies. No problem, Weaver said.
"I don't know that they [the ACC] hammered us on the subject, but they did want to make sure we have a broad-based program," Weaver said.
"But that has been our goal here since I arrived. It takes facilities and budget dollars and we've tried to enhance that situation, men and women."
Since Weaver became Tech's AD in 1997, the Hokies have built a softball stadium, built a training room for the whole athletic department and hired a full-time nutritionist for all sports. Tech will christen another new stadium this fall for its two soccer teams and its women's lacrosse squad.
"It's not like we've just been standing still on this, that's my point," Weaver said. "Having a broad-based sports program is one of the ACC's philosophical approaches and we are committed to that.
"Now that football has sold out for virtually the last four seasons, we've been able to generate new revenues we've never had before. We've reinvested a lot of that money into our Olympic sports program and raised our budgets. We're just going to continue doing what we've done and get better. It's not an issue at all, I think."
Weiss said it was that attitude that helped lure him to Blacksburg.
"From a soccer point of view, there are things that have been set in motion here for a year and a half now that will guarantee our chance of competing with anybody in ACC men's soccer," said Weiss, whose team tied for seventh in the Big East last season.
"I can't speak for the other sports, but I would think our boss, Jim Weaver, will have all intentions to make every sport competitive."
While winning won't come easy, there will be numerous upsides for Tech in its new home. Tech coaches seem to be unanimous in the opinion they will be able to recruit better athletes in the ACC.
"I think it's going to give us a real boost," said Tech baseball coach Chuck Hartman, whose club finished fourth in the Big East last season. "I think being in the Atlantic 10 and Big East cost us some players. Being a better conference - if you throw Miami in there, the ACC had six teams in the final top 25 rankings - you'll get better players.
"But we're going to have to raise our level of play and hope to be competitive, and, hopefully, play for a conference championship in a few years. It's going to be a very tough situation to get up to that level as quickly as possible. But we're going to get there. We're going to plan on it anyhow."
Then there's the travel issue. The ACC wins that department hands down over the Big East, where Tech's sports teams faced numerous 10-hour bus rides or plane flights to get to road venues.
"I'm thinking about going another 10 years now," quipped Hartman, 64.
Weiss said Tech's sports teams will have a better chance to succeed in much more geographically friendly ACC.
"Going on the road in the Big East is very tough," Weiss said. "Winning Big East away games is something that doesn't happen much. Getting on a bus to go to Wake Forest an hour and 40 minutes down the road ... we'll have a great game versus getting on a plane Friday, playing Saturday night in New York City and flying back home on Sunday.
"Now our longest away trip will be 4 1/2 hours to Clemson. Our shortest trip in the Big East was five hours. In men's soccer we don't have Georgia Tech, Florida State and Miami, so my travel budget will generally be cut in half."
Of all of Tech's nonrevenue sports teams, the men's golf team figures to be the most adjusted to the new challenge. Despite being in the Big East, Jay Hardwick's club still played most of its golf in the South, where it faced most of the ACC teams in tournaments.
"We think it's a wonderful opportunity," Hardwick said. "Obviously, the ACC is the No.1 conference in the country in golf - Clemson was the national champion and six teams finished in the top 25 this year. But the last three years we've made it to the NCAA. We're hoping this is going to open up a lot of doors for us in recruiting."
Hartman and Weiss said they expect to see a lot more interest in their teams and a lot more folks in the seats on game days.
"Our guys are going to play before more people in the first year than they've played in front of the last five years combined," Hartman noted.
"I would contend that if Tech would compete against an ACC school in basket-weaving people would show up and they would pay to see that," Weiss said. "People love these rivalries. Now it's up to us that we are winning so the excitement will be even greater."
1990 Bestwick plan doesn't sound bad now
That can get you in trouble sometimes when you think you're too smart to use the computer's spell-check function. It means you can spell words like "announcement" without the third "n," which is what I did in the lead paragraph of last week's Notebook Plus.
But, enough said about spelling. Geography was my first love, which brings us to a term that has been in vogue lately: geographical footprint.
I understand that the two newest members of the ACC are from states, Florida and Miami, that already had teams in the ACC, but this isn't a geographical footprint. It's a geographical stretch.
I have no problem with pursuing Miami, but let's not act like Miami is right around the corner.
"I drove from Tallahassee [Fla.] to Miami once," ACC assistant commissioner Mike Finn told me Thursday while he was vacationing -- sort of -- in Lewisburg, W.Va. "It took me five hours.”
"I believe you've got a speeding violation in your past," I told him.
According to the AAA, the driving distance between Tallahassee and Miami is 504 miles. If Finn made the trip in five hours, he was driving 100.8 miles per hour.
"OK, six-and-a half hours," Finn said. "Maybe seven."
The AAA lists a recommended driving time of 8 hours, 17 minutes.
Really, it's not the trip from Tallahassee to Miami that interests me. I want to know about the trip from Raleigh, N.C., to Miami.
You see, N.C. State chancellor Marye Anne Fox cast the deciding vote against a three-team expansion involving N.C. State, allegedly because Boston was too far to go for one trip.
Here are those figures:
From Miami to Raleigh, N.C., it's 803 miles, with a recommended driving time of 13 hours, 10 minutes. From Raleigh, N.C., to Boston, it's 739.6 miles, with a recommended driving time of 11 hours, 39 minutes.
So, it's too far to travel to go to Boston for one trip, but it's not too far to travel to Miami? Obviously, Marye Anne Fox was not a geography major.
OF COURSE, NONE of the ACC teams will be driving to Miami. Everybody will be flying except me because I'm a big weenie and hate to fly.
Readers of this column will remember that my aversion to flying is why I originally was opposed to ACC expansion, although I occasionally do take to the air and have tickets to go to Detroit later this year, when Virginia visits Western Michigan in football.
I suspect I will be flying to Miami and I would have flown to Boston College, but not necessarily Syracuse, another prospective ACC destination until Virginia Tech entered the mix.
That brings us to the issue of a 12th ACC team. The ACC has said it is prepared to stay at 11, but 12 makes so much more sense from a mathematical standpoint.
So, who will the 12th team be?
There are some teams out there who definitely would accept, a list headed by East Carolina, but the Pirates would not head an ACC wish list.
My wish list would be: 1) Penn State; 2) Notre Dame; 3) South Carolina, and 4) Boston College.
There were some reporters at the ACC's newsconference Tuesday who swore the ACC would go after Florida, but I don't see that happening. Of course, I didn't see foresee most of what has happened already.
I put Penn State at the top of my list because it makes more sense geographically (I've driven there, of course) and it does have some proximity to the Atlantic coast, unlike Notre Dame. Also, there was a time when Nittany Lions' coach Joe Paterno would have welcomed the ACC.
Of course, Penn State is in the Big 10 now and has established some tremendous rivalries in that league, which brings us to South Carolina.
I'm sure that Southeastern Conference football fans would tell me that an SEC team would never be better off in the ACC, but what exactly have the Gamecocks won since they left the ACC in 1970-71: a couple of baseball crowns?
I'm sure my first cousin, the Gamecock fan, will advise me of the foolishness of that statement. His father and my father were brothers who grew up in West Virginia, and I know a lot of Mountaineer fans would like to see WVU enter this club, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. TV markets and academics would intercede, I'm afraid.
So, that brings us to Boston College. After being left at the altar once, how could the Eagles ever see yes to the ACC again?
Just try them. It's not as far as Miami.
OLD FRIEND DICK BESTWICK, on a golfing vacation in Pennsylvania at the time of the ACC vote to expand, has produced a copy of a letter he sent to then-ACC commissioner Gene Corrigan in 1990 in which he advocated a 16-team ACC.
Bestwick, previously the Virginia football coach but employed by South Carolina at the time, proposed that the eight-team ACC be joined by Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, South Carolina and Florida State.
Bestwick advocated two eight-team divisions in basketball and four four-team divisions in football.
Division A would have been Boston College, Pittsburgh, Rutgers and Syracuse. Division B would have been Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech and West Virginia. Division C would have been Duke, N.C. State, UNC and Wake Forest. Division D would have been Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech and South Carolina.
Of course, Miami would not have been part of that arrangement, but nobody can argue that the divisions made sense. The four divisions would have been divided into two conferences that would have played a championship game on the first weekend of December.
DID ANYBODY HEAR Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese on ESPN Radio on Wednesday? Tranghese said of ACC expansion and proposed Big East expansion: "If we do it the same way as them, you should hang us."
We shouldn't expect to see Tranghese and ACC commissioner John Swofford socializing together any time soon.
Hokies aided by location
Short road trips give ACC more class time
BY JOHN O'CONNOR
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Jul 04, 2003
Virginia Tech had geography on its side.
The Hokies, along with Miami, were introduced Tuesday as future ACC members
(expected to start in 2004-05) at a league event in Greensboro, N.C. The more
you listened to those involved with the unpredictable expansion exercise, the
more the term "student-welfare issue" surfaced.
"That [became] a central theme, it seemed, during the latter part of process,"
Virginia Tech Athletic Director Jim Weaver said.
In short, "student-welfare issue" involves boarding buses rather than airplanes
and the comparison in missed class time. There also is cost consideration. Had
the ACC expanded to include Syracuse and Boston College in addition to Miami, as
was originally projected, ACC schools would have increasingly sent students to
games that included flights, more overnight stays and extended class absence.
Virginia Tech became a more attractive candidate to the nine-member ACC after it
became apparent to league officials that the seven votes needed to add the
triumvirate of Miami, Syracuse and Boston College weren't forthcoming.
"I think what we learned from it ulti- mately is that in terms of a consensus
and in reaching the seven-vote level that maybe geography in the [league's]
footprint came to mean more at the end of the process than it appeared to mean
at the beginning and during a large part of the process," said John Swofford,
the ACC's commissioner.
"I do think that had something to do with bringing us to the consensus of where
the presidents ended up."
Geography worked both ways. It was also one of the major attractions of ACC
affiliation from Virginia Tech's perspective, and one of the main reasons Tech
has been trying to get into the ACC since it formed in 1953. According to John
Rocovich, Virginia Tech's rector of the board of visitors, more than half of
Tech's alumni live in "the heart of traditional ACC country," Virginia, North
Carolina and South Carolina.
"We recruit in the two Carolinas and Virginia primarily, but we've been going
out of the geographic area to play our [road games], whether we were in the
Atlantic 10 or the Big East," Weaver said. "Having an opportunity to recruit
young people from these respective states and stay in those areas to play we
think is going to make a significant impact."
Also, Weaver said that money saved in travel "will be reinvested in our
operation budgets. . . . We're going to continue the upgrading we started five
or six years ago and try to become very competitive in all 21 [Hokies] sports."
Clearly, men's basketball is the one sport that concerns Tech supporters. The
ACC probably features the finest Division I men's basketball collection in the
land. The Hokies have qualified for the NCAA tournament once (1996) since 1986,
in March fired a coach (Ricky Stokes) who was 45-70 in four years, and are
coming off a season in which they fell to Wofford and William and Mary.
But ACC affiliation can perk up a program fairly quickly, noted Virginia
Athletic Director Craig Littlepage, who recalls Georgia Tech's situation. The
Yellow Jackets joined the ACC for 1979-80 and won only four of their first 42
league games (three seasons).
"Within about five or six years, they became not only one of the ACC's top
programs, but one of the country's top programs," Littlepage recalled.
By 1985, Georgia Tech tied for the best regular-season record in the ACC, won
the league championship and was ranked among the nation's top 10 for much of the
season.
For $200, Virginia became ACC's first expansion school
July 04, 2003
Fifty years ago, Virginia was the ACC's first expansion school.
The ACC formed in the spring of 1953 with a group of seven schools that seceded
from the Southern Conference: Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, N.C.
State, South Carolina and Wake Forest.
Virginia Athletic Director Gus Tebell was expected at the meeting that launched
the ACC, but according to a newspaper report, was unable to make the trip to
North Carolina to attend because his son was departing for military service in
Korea.
A June 15, 1953 Associated Press story read "In [Tebell's] absence, there was
little the conference could do regarding the eighth team."
Virginia became part of the ACC in December 1953, missing the first season of
league football competition, but joining in time to be included in the'53-54 ACC
basketball schedule.
At the same league meeting in late'53 at which Virginia gained admission to the
ACC, Virginia Tech and West Virginia asked to be admitted. They were rejected.
Virginia's joining fee in'53? Two hundred dollars. Virginia Tech, recently
admitted, will pay $2 million. - John O'Connor
GREENSBORO, N.C. - (KRT) - Florida State Athletic Director Dave Hart hopes the Atlantic Coast Conference will have a 12th football team by the 2004-2005 season.
"I don't think much is gained by allowing things to settle down too much," Hart said. "Our original thinking was to have 12 teams. While the most recent expansion got us to 11, we still have one team to go, and we shouldn't waste a lot of time getting there."
If the ACC had 12 teams, it would have two football divisions and a championship game that would initially be worth $4-$6 million.
Without 12 teams, the league would need a change in NCAA rules to hold a championship game. An 11-team conference would play in one division with each school having two protected games annually.
The rules require a conference to have at least 12 to conduct a championship game. The NCAA's Football Issues Committee is to review a change in legislation this month.
If there are divisions, one model being studied is Miami, Virginia Tech, Virginia, Wake Forest, Duke and Georgia Tech in one division with Florida State, Maryland, North Carolina State, North Carolina and Clemson in the other.
Basketball will have an 11-team setup. Each school will have two partners that it plays twice each year. It will have four teams that it plays twice in one season and four teams that it plays once. In alternating seasons, the four-team combinations will rotate.
"We planned for two six-team divisions initially," Hart said, "and I think that we should continue to pursue it vigorously. We already have divisions and schedule models for 12 teams. We will have to start from scratch with 11 teams."
Notre Dame is the first choice of the presidents. Kentucky, South Carolina, Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh and Connecticut are other possibilities.
If Notre Dame joins, it could be allowed to play a seven-game conference schedule to allow for its traditional-rivalry games. "We're all looking at Notre Dame," FSU President T.K. Wetherell. "The question is going to be, `How do you work this deal?' The ACC and the Big Ten are clearly going to start courting Notre Dame."
Adding a 12th team would need the presidents' approval. Georgia Tech's G. Wayne Clough indicated it might not happen as soon as Hart and others would like.
"I think that there's a lot of sentiment to do it," Clough said. "There's a certain logic to do it, but we're not in any rush. We have two great new members (in Miami and Virginia Tech).
"We need a little time bring them into the fold before we jump to any conclusions. We're going to take a little rest."
Unlike his counterpart in the Big East, Mike Tranghese, ACC Commissioner John Swofford chose silence throughout most of the expansion talks.
With the nine presidents sometimes pulling in different directions, it's being said that an understated and steady hand was what was needed."I want to state in the strongest terms on behalf of all of my colleagues on the Council of Presidents how much we appreciate (John Swofford's) diligence, patience, and hard work in helping us reach the conclusion on conference expansion," Clough said.
Swofford knew from the beginning that seven presidents favored expansion, but using Virginia Tech's inclusion to unlock Virginia's vote and admit Miami took work at the top.
"John and his staff did a superb job," Wake Forest Athletic Director Ron Wellman said. "They demonstrated strength, sensitivity, diplomacy and determination. Rarely were the waters calm during this process. Yet John forged ahead and weathered all of the storms."
AROUND THE LEAGUE
Miami Athletic Director Paul Dee said he wouldn't be opposed to playing non-conference games with Boston College, Syracuse and perhaps Connecticut when the Hurricanes join the ACC in 2004-2005. It would allow Miami to keep its northeast connection open. . . .
The ACC will need an extra $20 million to finance even shares for Miami and Virginia Tech when they become full partners in their third season.
By then, the conference expects to have new television contracts, reaching as high as $40 million per season, and the championship game.
That would cover the $20 million. Until then, the Hurricanes and Virginia Tech will receive $6.2 million a season with the possibility of another $2 million if either plays in the Bowl Championship Series title game. . . .
If a league championship is played, it could also help increase income, as could renegotiated television contracts for the final two seasons with ABC, ESPN and Jefferson-Pilot, the regional network. . . .
ACC and the Orange Bowl Committee are expected to meet soon to discuss the possibility of a second bowl game in South Florida, to be played around Christmas.
INSIDE THE ACC | GREGG DOYEL
League's official unveiling offered a few surprises
GREENSBORO - For the expanding ACC, two strange months were capped Tuesday night
by one strange news conference.
Here are nine bizarre tidbits that came from the official introduction of Miami
and Virginia Tech:
The Missing Majors
Eight speakers took turns behind a microphone Tuesday night, but nowhere to be
found were the four biggest players in this expansion saga, after Commissioner
John Swofford: presidents Donna Shalala of Miami, John Casteen of Virginia, Nan
Keohane of Duke and Chancellor James Moeser of North Carolina. Shalala was the
prize, while Keohane, Moeser and Casteen were the power brokers.
That trio blocked the original expansion proposal that would have included
Boston College and Syracuse over Virginia Tech.
Speaking of Virginia Tech, Chancellor Charles Steger wasn't in Greensboro,
either. He was stranded by plane and weather issues at an Atlanta airport.
The Unlikely Union
Imagine N.C. State Chancellor Marye Anne Fox putting her career on the line in
an attempt to save the athletics programs at North Carolina.
That's basically what happened with Casteen, who bullied the ACC into
substituting Virginia Tech for Boston College and Syracuse.
"We're deeply grateful to John Casteen, who has worked tremendously for us,
seeking the best outcome for Virginia Tech," said John Rocovich, rector of the
Virginia Tech Board of Visitors.
A Different Number
According to Georgia Tech President Wayne Clough, until last week, the ACC's
expansion talks centered on five results: staying at nine schools, or growing to
10, 12, 13 or 14 schools. Not 11.
The Punching Bag
Miami athletics director Paul Dee wasn't exactly given the grapes-and-wine
treatment. In his opening remarks, Swofford poked fun at Dee's rotundity by
joking about Dee's vertical leap. A variation of that joke was repeated by at
least two other speakers, ultimately causing Dee to roll his eyes.
The Golf Course
Swofford sweated out part of the weekend on the links, as did Shalala. Swofford
actually offered to fly to Miami for the weekend to hammer out any details with
Miami, but Shalala declined. "John," Shalala told him, "I have a golf game
scheduled on Saturday and on Sunday, and if you come down here and mess either
one of those up, I'm going to be very upset with you."
Said Swofford: "I took that to mean I probably shouldn't come down to Miami."
The Vote
When ACC presidents and chancellors voted to invite Miami and Virginia Tech,
they voted on each school separately, not as an all-or-nothing block. Neither
Swofford nor Clough would divulge the results of that vote.
The Miscalculation
One reason ACC expansion lurched from the Northeast to the South, ultimately
forcing Boston College and Syracuse to return to a conference they wanted to
leave, was because ACC leaders misjudged the importance of geography. "Geography
in the (ACC's existing) footprint came to mean more at the end of the process
than it appeared to mean at the beginning," Swofford said.
Said Clough: "In the early days, we might not have thought about it perhaps as
much as we did later."
The Disclaimer
After citing richer television contracts as an enticement for ACC presidents to
add Miami and ultimately Virginia Tech, Swofford indicated that, well, there are
no guarantees.
"A lot of things go into contract negotiations, some of which you have no
control over," Swofford said, "such as the timing and the state of the economy
and the state of the marketplace when you go there. And that could be a
considerable difference during a six- to 12-month period.
"Those are the uncontrollables."
The Favor
Asked if the other Bowl Championship Series leagues might "owe the Big East one"
and decide to keep the weakened Big East in the BCS mix, Swofford almost agreed.
"I think (that) could enter into it," he said. "My guess is, and quite frankly
my hope would be, that the Big East when that's all said and done would remain a
BCS partner."
This is the Big East that is suing the ACC and Miami for hundreds of millions of
dollars in damages.
Tech coaches say ACC move sure to boost competition
By Dave Johnson
Daily Press
Published July 4, 2003
You'll excuse Virginia Tech women's basketball coach Bonnie Henrickson if her
emotions are a little mixed. She's excited about the Hokies' move from the Big
East to the ACC, a league that offers better TV exposure and no members in New
England. But it's not like Tech plays in some run-down conference that hasn't
won the last four national championships.
Of the athletic department's 21 head coaches, Henrickson is one of the very few
who isn't clearly upgrading. True, the ACC had a slightly better RPI in 2002-03,
but the Big East won the head-to-head competition 7-4. While the ACC has
national powers Duke and North Carolina, the Big East has Connecticut and ...
well, do you even need a second?
"We're in a unique situation because we're going from a great conference to a
great conference," Henrickson said. "This past season's freshman class was a
top-10 recruiting class, and for that group it was all about competing in the
Big East. A number of those kids chose us, believe it or not, over some schools
from the ACC for the opportunity to compete in the Big East.
"But the level of exposure is one of many plusses for us to make the move. The
television package for the ACC is fantastic, both regionally and nationally, and
that helps us with recruiting. A lot of kids say, 'I want to play in the ACC
because that's the conference I know and I like.' So it's been very positive.
It's been fantastic."
Wrestling coach Keith Mourlam also faces an interesting move. Since the Big East
does not sponsor wrestling, the Hokies compete in the Eastern Wrestling League,
which includes some of the top programs in the Northeast. The EWL had 37 bids to
the NCAA meet last year to the ACC's 17. Though it will get fewer chances to
send wrestlers to the nationals, Tech figures to be more competitive in the ACC.
"The league is getting better," coach Keith Mourlam said of the ACC.
"Competition-wise, this isn't going to hurt me. We're excited about it."
Yet most of Tech's Olympic programs face a stiff challenge in switching
conferences. Take Oliver Weiss' men's soccer team, for instance. The Hokies went
10-7-1 last season - decent, but not good enough to make the eight-team Big East
tournament. Since 1984, Tech is 1-16 vs. ACC competition.
Weiss believes the upper echelon of the Big East compares favorably to the ACC,
and he might be right: Boston College, St. John's, Connecticut and Notre Dame
won a combined six games in last fall's NCAA tournament.
"The leagues are different," said Weiss, an assistant at North Carolina from
1999-2001.
"One has seven (soccer-playing members), the other has 13. The Big East is as
strong, if not stronger, in the top half of the league. But the bottom half of
the Big East is not as well funded, and that's the reason why the ACC has a
higher RPI."
Jay Hardwick's golf program has won the last three Big East championships, but
Tech's new conference will be a different world. Five ACC teams, including
national champion Clemson, finished in the top 15 last spring.
"They're known as the best golf conference in the country," Hardwick said. "We
have played in the south region for the past 20 years, so our schedule pits us
against many of the ACC teams. We feel it's a natural fit."
Chuck Hartman, Tech's baseball coach the past 25 years, enters a league that
sent five teams to the NCAA field. And when you throw in Miami, which was ranked
fifth in the final poll, that's another killer league.
"You're talking about a conference that over the last five years has had the
highest or second-highest RPI in the country," Hartman said. "We've got to raise
it a level."
They all do.
On the whole, Virginia Tech athletics had a weak year. Of the 268 Division I
teams competing for the NACDA Directors' Cup, which computes a department's
success in all sports, the Hokies finished 112th. Only two of the Big East's 14
full-time members did worse. Georgia Tech finished last in the ACC - nearly 60
spots ahead of Virginia Tech.
But Tech hopes membership in the ACC will be a huge boost. In addition to a
recruiting boost, each coach expects the switch to ease travel budget concerns.
Weiss points out that in Big East soccer, his shortest busride is five hours. In
the ACC, his longest busride will be five hours.
This just might be the fountain of youth for Hartman, who just completed his
44th season as a college head coach.
"I think I may go about 10 more years now," he said.
MONTGOMERY, Ala. - The Southeastern Conference has endured coaching scandals, NCAA troubles and a mediocre season by its own lofty standards.
And now this.
Now, the Atlantic Coast Conference has muscled up by adding Miami and Virginia Tech to its ranks in yet another challenge to the SEC's football supremacy. Will the ACC be the stronger conference?
"I think it's way too early to speculate on something like that," said Bill Curry, a former Alabama, Kentucky and Georgia Tech coach. "If you come to that conclusion, it is going to get a tremendous emotional response. That's what I can promise you."
In the short-term, at least, the ACC clearly will pose a challenge to the SEC for a litany of well-publicized reasons, on and off the field.
Alabama won 10 games last year but NCAA sanctions and fallout from the abrupt firing of coach Mike Price in May for personal indiscretions could take a toll. Price was replaced by Miami Dolphins assistant Mike Shula in his first college job.
Arkansas and Kentucky also are on NCAA probation.
Mississippi State is under NCAA investigation for possible rules violations and Tennessee has self-imposed sanctions for recruiting infractions involving a former player.
SEC East powers Florida and Tennessee are both coming off 8-5 seasons, their worst in 13 and 14 years, respectively. Neither was ranked in the final AP poll.
Robust financial health eases some of the league's pain. The SEC doled out a record $101.9 million among its 12 schools for the fiscal year ending Aug. 31.
Commissioner Mike Slive isn't too concerned with talk of the ACC or the Big 12 overtaking his league in the football hierarchy.
"It's sort of flattering," he said. "What we're seeing are leagues trying to emulate the SEC. And we welcome the competition.
"It will make us better."
It's pretty good already. Georgia is coming off its winningest season while Auburn is touted as a potential Top 10 team and was picked preseason No. 1 by The Sporting News.
That's also another welcome example of parity. Florida played in the first five SEC championship games - the first three against Alabama - under Steve Spurrier.
Different teams have represented the Western Division in each of the last five games and the East in the last three.
Competition aside, Curry sums up the effects of the ACC's move on the Southern college football landscape.
"You are going to see two really powerful conferences," the ESPN analyst said. "Anybody with a brain can see that.
"The SEC has certainly been dealing with some issues the last few years. Mike Slive has got his work cut out for him."
The league finished last season with only one team, Georgia, ranked in the Top 15 in the Bowl Championship Series. The Big 12 and Big Ten had four apiece while the Big East and Pac-10 each had two. The ACC had won, Florida State, but would have two with the addition of Miami.
Arkansas athletic director Frank Broyles even suggested the ACC might pursue an SEC team - perhaps Florida, Kentucky or South Carolina - in its quest for a 12th team to qualify for a league championship game.
Slive doesn't expect any problems keeping the SEC intact. He readily rattles off the league's considerable selling points, including a multi-year television deal with CBS, flush coffers and a football-crazy fan base.
"There's a pretty significant magnetic force that makes this league very special, and I have every expectation that each and every member of this league understands that," Slive said.
Curry played for Georgia Tech when it left the SEC in 1963 and well remembers the outcry from league fans.
Still, he's not sure there really is much of a rivalry between leagues.
"When the game's in the fourth quarter and you're driving the ball and you're exhausted," Curry said, "you're not thinking about, 'Let's win this for Dear Old Conference.'"
Master of the obvious
By FRANK DASCENZO : The Herald-Sun
fdascenzo@heraldsun.com
Jul 4, 2003 : 12:45 am ET
Assuming all the presidents of ACC schools are enjoying Independence Day and not
throwing verbal jabs at one another, or even John Swofford for that matter, the
latest to come from the illustrious world of higher education should bring a
frown to your face.
It comes from Florida State's president, T.K. Wetherell, who undoubtedly never
took a lesson in how to keep a secret. Wetherell, if you will recall, leaked the
ACC's desire to expand -- and raid the Big East with an original plan that
included Miami, Boston College and Syracuse and not Virginia Tech -- which led
the league into a two-month turmoil of teleconferences and rumors and
backstabbing. Oh yes, and of basketball people wondering if this was turning
into a football conference.
Now Wetherell is offering his advice to the ACC to go and get Notre Dame. Right,
go and get the Fighting Irish as if it were as easy as buying a candy bar in
your nearest grocery store. Go and get the Irish and tell them they can share
football revenue with the ACC, play against the mighty Hurricanes and Seminoles
every year and be the 12th team in the conference.
Wetherell told The Tallahassee Democrat, "I don't know about the rest [of the
ACC presidents], but that's who we should be going after -- Notre Dame. We ought
to be sending Coach [Bobby] Bowden, and anyone else who wants to go, to talk to
them."
Oh sure, T.K. Take Chuck Amato and Ralph Friedgen along for the heck of it. Fly
them on a private jet, into South Bend, drive right up under the Golden Dome and
get Kevin White, the Notre Dame athletics director, and convince him the ACC is
where the Irish belonged all along.
And just think, the folks in the Big 10 will just be sitting there doing nothing
and watching your every move. Same as the bloodied Big East, where the Irish are
members in basketball.
The problem with people like Wetherell is that they are masters of the obvious.
Perhaps it comes from daydreaming too long, or spending too much time wondering
about student-athletes who take part in gambling or shopping at Tallahassee
malls. What league wouldn't want the Fighting Irish?
Now understand where Wetherell is coming from and where, oh, say, UNC president
James Moeser and Duke president Nan Keohane are coming from. Same conference
maybe, but different worlds. FSU is football. In case you haven't noticed, Duke
and North Carolina are basketball.
The moment Swofford ended his media conference to officially introduce Miami and
Virginia Tech as the 10th and 11th members of the ACC on Tuesday night at
Greensboro, it was made abundantly clear that the league is in no rush to get a
12th team.
White is not returning telephone calls from media types curious to know if the
Irish will go fishing for a conference after all these years of being the
strongest independent football power in the history of the college world.
But John Heisler, the Notre Dame sports information director, said, "Can anyone
sit here and say this will fly forever? Probably not. But we prefer to enable
our football program to remain independent because that's been an important part
of our institutional profile."
But Wetherell is anxious.
"We need to go after Notre Dame and quickly," he said. "In my mind, the
recruiting has already started."
For the moment, let us all consider Wetherell is right. After all, he was right
before when the ACC launched its expansion attack. The speculation already has
begun over potential members for the 12th slot. South Carolina. They left once
before, remember? Kentucky. A basketball school -- honestly. Central Florida.
Nickname is Golden Knights. Minnesota Vikings quarterback Dante Culpepper played
there.
But anyone who knows the difference between a first down and a free throw knows
that Notre Dame is the giant in the sky any major conference would covet
immensely.
In gutting the Big East of its two best football programs, the ACC opened a
wound -- and a serious concern -- around the nation that if it could happen in
one part of America, who's to say it can't happen somewhere else. While Notre
Dame might be the symbol of college football heritage -- they did put the
College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend, by the way -- it must also be
pondering the thought of changing its independent status.
Wetherell's idea of sending a scout team to parade in front of statues and
photos of Rockne and Gipp and the seven Heisman Trophy winners that the Irish
are proud of is an interesting one. But is it a realistic one?
If the ACC thought it had even a slim chance of catching the Irish as a 12th
member, there would be no need to send Bobby Bowden. Every league president
should agree to go.
Hokies, Canes face bumpy path on Tobacco Road
BRYAN STRICKLAND : The Herald-Sun
bstrickland@heraldsun.com
Jul 4, 2003 : 12:44 am ET
Anthony King grew up in a Carolina-crazy household, fervently following the
fortunes of Tar Heels basketball in between his games for Southern High School.
King hoped to someday play at UNC. Now, thanks to ACC expansion, King will get
his wish -- sort of.
King, a 6-9 forward, committed in March to play for the University of Miami. Now
the Hurricanes, along with Virginia Tech, are headed from the Big East to the
ACC, beginning with the 2004-2005 season.
That means that King is headed for the Smith Center.
"I had some interest in the ACC. Who wouldn't?" King said. "My whole household
was Carolina fans.
"I'll get to see my mom more, so that will be great. ... To tell you the truth,
I really can't wait to play against Carolina."
But King's excitement about taking on the Tar Heels has more to do with
recruiting than it does expansion. King said he was looking forward to playing
in the Big East and considered the conference to be the ACC's equal. He turned
down a scholarship offer from Clemson and had UConn at the top of his wish list
with UNC.
UNC showed some interest in him, but King said the Tar Heels strung him along.
"I thought something was going to happen; I was talking to them on an every-day
basis," said King, whose Hurricanes will travel to the Smith Center for a
nonconference game this season. "They kept saying that I needed to do this or I
needed to do that during my season, and I was doing those things.
"So I was like, `What's the hold-up?' So I finally said, `If you're going to sit
around and play around, then I'm going to go somewhere else.' "
Now, King will be a frequent traveler to Tobacco Road and a conference that just
tripled its supply of Southern High products. UNC's David Noel played with King
at Southern, as did Virginia Tech forward Fabian Davis, a freshman for the
Hokies last season.
Miami and Virginia Tech's invitation to the ACC was a football-driven decision,
but players like King and Davis will be among the driving forces trying to bring
their basketball programs some not-easily-earned respect along Tobacco Road.
The road could be a bumpy one.
While Virginia Tech and Miami football will bring a big boost to the ACC, the
Hokies and Hurricanes are hoping the ACC can provide a similar boost to their
basketball programs.
"It's a huge shot in the arm for us," first-year Virginia Tech coach Seth
Greenberg said. "It's a win-win for us.
"It's time to get to work and upgrade the level of our players so we can be
successful."
The Hokies didn't find success in their three seasons of Big East basketball,
finishing in the cellar each season with a combined conference record of 10-38.
Over the last seven seasons, the Hokies have finished with a losing record six
times.
But Greenberg believes that the Hokies' new conference could usher in a new era.
"We're not in this thing to say, `Oh, man, we're happy to be in the ACC ... come
on and whip our tail.' That's not what it's about," said Greenberg, who spent
the last seven seasons at South Florida. "It's about using the ACC as a vehicle
or springboard to put us in position to recruit the kind of players we need to
be successful.
"Obviously, we're going into a league that has as rich a tradition of any league
that's ever bounced the basketball. The key for us is that we're joining a
league that's in the geographic footprint of where we need to be successful
recruiting -- that's in Virginia and North Carolina. I think we have the ability
now to recruit head-to-head with schools in our state and be able to go out of
the state and communicate to these kids that they will get a chance to play in
front of family and friends and play at the very, very highest levels."
Miami is in a better position to help feed the ACC rather than feed off the
league, but the Hurricanes have their own hurdles. Before last season's 11-17
record, Miami had recorded eight straight winning records and had made six
straight postseason appearances. But also before last season, the Hurricanes
didn't have a home.
That changed on Jan. 4, when the Canes opened the $48 million Convocation Center
-- a 7,000-seat, on-campus facility -- with a 64-61 overtime victory over UNC.
"One of the areas where our program had not been fully funded and fully taken
care of was our basketball program," Miami athletics director Paul Dee said.
"From 1971 to 1985, we dropped basketball because we didn't have a place to
play. We had different places to play, but we were like the Miami Nomads. In the
history of the university, we've played in 16 different venues in the city, the
largest of which seated about 10.
"So it had always been important to us, as a university, to have our own
facility. And through the help of a number of people and our fans, we were able
to construct a brand-new facility."
So while Miami appears to be on the right track, the Hurricanes are less than
two decades removed from not even having a basketball team and mere months
removed from having no homecourt advantage.
None of that bothers King, who found out a couple of weeks ago that he had
qualified academically. King is now in Miami, taking a couple of summer-school
classes and preparing himself for his homecoming.
"I guess I've got to get my kinks out this year because I'm going to be going
back home," King said. "And I know I'm going to hear about it when I get home if
I don't play well."
Miami and Virginia Tech know they'll hear about it as well.
NOTES -- ACC commissioner John Swofford said that the addition of Miami and
Virginia Tech obviously signals the end of double round-robin play, but he said
that every effort would be made to keep the top rivalries as home-and-home
series. ... Swofford said the ACC would look at the 11-team Big Ten model for
scheduling purposes. Big Ten basketball teams played 16 conference games last
season, facing six teams twice and four teams once. ... Swofford also said the
ACC would likely adopt the Big Ten Tournament model, meaning the Thursday of the
ACC Tournament would increase to three games (No. 6 seed vs. No. 11; No. 7 vs.
No. 10; No. 8 vs. No. 9). The top five seeds would receive byes into Friday's
quarterfinals, and beginning Friday the tournament would follow its familiar
format.
Hokies have arrived
'You couldn't dream up this script. You could put all the people involved in a
think tank and you don't come out with this.' Jim Weaver, Virginia Tech
athletics director
By LUCIANA CHAVEZ, Staff Writer
BLACKSBURG, VA.--Place-kicker Shayne Graham calls Virginia Tech's 2000 national
title game appearance against Florida State in the Sugar Bowl the biggest game
in the school's history -- even though the Hokies lost 46-29. "We had never been
there before," said Graham, who is now with the Carolina Panthers. "It was
something we were not used to at all. It's hard to explain what it was like
except that a lot of people wanted to make it like we didn't have a chance."
The Hokies went out and immediately started to prove everyone right when they
trailed 28-14 at the half against the Seminoles that evening in New Orleans.
Then they began to prove everyone wrong when they rallied to take a 29-28 lead
at the end of the third quarter behind a stunning performance from redshirt
freshman quarterback Michael Vick.
Although Florida State outscored Virginia Tech 18-0 in the final quarter, notice
had been served: The Hokies were about to enter that small fraternity of
perennially fawned-over football teams.
"Before, we knew we were going to be good but it wasn't expected of us," Graham
said. "Now that starts early every year."
The Hokies' convoluted journey into the ACC followed a story line similar to
that biggest game in Hokies' football history.
A week and a half ago, Virginia Tech's chances for receiving an invitation into
the ACC were all but dead. The school lobbied for inclusion, and was turned
down.
Virginia politicians rallied behind the cause, then Tech joined in a lawsuit
against the conference it now will happily join. Last week, Tech was dropped as
a plaintiff in the suit after being invited to become an ACC member.
"I don't know how to even characterize [this situation with the ACC]," Virginia
Tech athletics director Jim Weaver said last week. "You couldn't dream up this
script. You could put all the people involved in a think tank and you don't come
out with this."
But Virginia Tech believed throughout the saga that it was right for the ACC.
And in the end, the ACC was forced to agree.
"We exist in the current footprint of the ACC," Weaver said, noting that
Blacksburg is located within a four-hour drive of five ACC schools -- Virginia,
North Carolina, Duke, N.C. State and Wake Forest.
"Travel-wise, that is much more palatable for us than the Big East," Weaver
said. "And we have a preexisting relationship in football and most sports with
almost every institution in the ACC."
Sitting on a plateau between the Alleghany and Blue Ridge mountains, Tech will
welcome ACC crowds to a campus that echoes the lush green and leafy beauty of
the southwest Virginia foothills.
Chartered in 1872 as Virginia Mechanical and Agricultural College, the Virginia
Polytechnic Institute and State University ranked 36th among all public
universities in the most recent rankings from U.S. News & World Report.
Known for its engineering programs, Virginia Tech also consistently ranks among
the top 50 research universities in the country, putting into practice the
university motto Ut Prosim: That I may serve.
Virginia Tech is one of three public institutions in the United States with both
an active military cadet corps and a civilian student population.
Participation in the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets, which has about 700 members,
is no longer mandatory, but it remains a tradition at the university.
More than 25,600 students pursue degrees on a campus that stretches across 2,600
acres and includes an airport; a golf course; Smithfield Plantation, one of the
state's oldest historical landmarks; and buildings constructed from rock taken
from a local quarry and appropriately called "Hokie Stone."
At the heart of the 300 acres on which most of the university's academic
buildings are located, sits the Drillfield, a large oval field cut into sections
by lighted paths. War Memorial Chapel sits at the eastern end.
On the Drillfield, you'll find students playing sports or studying and the Corps
of Cadets' official band -- a.k.a. the Highty Tighties -- practicing.
Obviously the school's beauty and football frenzy lure students. But its
practicality, history and solid reputation as an academic institution assure
them they made the right choice.
"I like the region and love the campus; it's beautiful," said Kate May, a junior
horticulture and English major from Sperryville, Va. "And I like the school
spirit. I went to a small high school and we didn't really have school spirit.
So it's really cool to come to a college where everyone is all about the Hokies."
Like many small towns with big universities, life in Blacksburg (pop. around
39,700 including students) revolves around the university.
"All of the commerce is based on Tech's academic calendar," said Bill Ellenbogen,
a former Tech player and owner of Bogen's restaurant in Blacksburg.
But locals and visitors alike feel the connection most strongly on weekends when
the Hokies host a football game and the town's population nearly doubles in size
with the influx of fans.
"The community does tend to hold its breath every Saturday [during football
season]." Ellenbogen said. "We live and die with Tech."
Over the past decade, Blacksburg has undergone an economic boom coinciding with
the Hokies' rise as a football power.
A recent economic impact study completed by Virginia Tech estimated that home
football games attract as much as $2 million per game to Montgomery County.
New hotels and restaurants have cropped up in Blacksburg and nearby towns such
as Christiansburg to handle the large crowds. And a new highway bypass to the
Tech campus was recently completed to cut out a long, tedious trip into campus
from the freeway through more than a dozen stoplights.
Hotel rooms within a 45- to 50-mile radius of Blacksburg, from Roanoke to the
east and Wytheville to the south, are filled and often booked a year in advance
for football weekends.
Restaurants, like Bogen's and the Hokie House on Main Street in Blacksburg, reap
the benefits.
"Like any bar in town, it will be packed to the point that you can't move," said
Bogen's bartender and 2002 Tech grad Rory Reynolds.
And locals believe joining the ACC can only enhance the fervor.
"It's been the sense in Blacksburg for a long time that the ACC would be a good
place for Tech to be because its academic standards are compatible with the ACC,
because it's geographically close to most of the schools and the ACC is a known
commodity," Ellenbogen said.
Tech wasn't always such a popular, successful football school. Head coach Frank
Beamer's early teams struggled and "it used to be the stands wouldn't even be
half full," said Linda Seawell, who has worked at Tech for 24 years and been a
Hokie fan just as long.
But 10 straight bowl appearances does great things for a program. "Now you can't
even get a ticket," Seawell said.
Virginia Tech sold out all its home football games from the last game of 1998
season through the last game of 2001 season. In August 2002, a new 11,120-seat
addition to the stadium brought its capacity to 65,115.
The ACC is eager to tap into the Hokies' football fanaticism. "I think that's
what would make Tech attractive to any league," said Bill Roth, the Hokies'
radio play-by-play man. "They're very successful on the field and very good at
the gate."
Unlike former ACC targets Syracuse and Boston College, Tech should be able to
slide right into the ACC culture. And following the chaotic process that ACC
expansion became, that's no small thing.
Just like joining the Big East in 1991 boosted Virginia Tech's football program,
joining the ACC could boost the men's basketball program, as well as give
improving non-revenue sports a solid place to grow.
Men's basketball had not been out of the Big East cellar under former head coach
Ricky Stokes. His teams went 45-70 in four seasons and never won more than four
Big East games in any of Tech's three conference seasons. Seth Greenberg was
hired this spring to replace him.
Basketball attendance has lagged for years but hosting the Dukes, North
Carolinas, Marylands and Wake Forests of the college basketball world could
begin to fill the newly refurbished 10,052-seat Cassell Coliseum as well as give
Greenberg entree to the homes of better recruits.
"I think Virginia Tech has everything in place to be very successful in men's
basketball," Roth said.
Tech's non-revenue sports have seen steady improvement under Weaver's watch. His
goal has always been for Tech teams to consistently rank in the upper third of
the conference.
"You're not going to win a conference championship if you're not in upper
echelon of the conference," Weaver said. "And once you start winning conference
championships, then you can start talking about being a national program and
competing for national titles. If look you back at football, that exactly what
happened."
Led by coach Bonnie Henrickson , the Tech women's basketball team has
consistently finished in the upper third of the Big East standings.
The baseball, softball and tennis teams can claim the same. Men's golf has
dominated the Big East since joining and the school will host the 2004 NCAA
championships at the Homestead course.
The athletics department supports other non-revenue sports that are still trying
to gain ground with an aggressive plan to refurbish nearly all of the school's
facilities.
"I think joining the ACC is going to give the other sports in our system a
chance to break out," said Graham, the former Tech place-kicker. "I think it'll
be good for everybody but it's a sticky situation having to leave a conference
that has done so much for us."
Weaver said the school's plan for its athletics programs likely wouldn't change
because the goal will never change.
"We're not there yet," Weaver said, referring to consistently being successful
on the national level. "But we've made great strides in last six years. We've
been on the move."
Mike Bianchi
Florida belongs in ACC with FSU and Miami
Published July 4, 2003
Go Gators.
To the ACC, that is.
OK, you orange-and-blue babies, it's time to stop whining about how Florida
State and Miami have had it easy all these years and put your team on a level
playing field. If you dare.
The University of Florida should split the SouthLeastern Conference right now
and do the right thing for its academic reputation and athletic program -- join
the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Before all you UF fans lose your minds and send one of your football players to
permanently disfigure me, I remind you of some memorable words uttered by the
man who made you what you are:
"We're the only state where the three big schools are all in different
conferences. It's ridiculous. Florida, Florida State and Miami all ought to be
in the same conference. That would make everything equal."
Steve Spurrier uttered those wishful words during his final year at UF. Of
course, Spurrier was shooting from the lip as he often did in those days.
Everybody just sort of rolled their eyes because such a concept seemed
impossible back then.
Not anymore. Suddenly, it's possible for all three state schools to be in the
same league. Possible -- and plausible.
Nobody likes how the back-stabbing, money-grubbing ACC went about adding Miami
and Virginia Tech, but what's done is done. The new rules of etiquette have been
established -- and there are no rules.
Everybody is out for No. 1. The ACC did what it felt it had to do for the
betterment of its league. Now the Gators should do what they need to do, too.
The ACC needs another team so it can get to 12 members and play a conference
championship game. Florida should be that 12th man.
The landscape has changed, and so has the balance of power. There was a time not
so long ago when I thought FSU belonged in the SEC -- geographically,
philosophically, socially and sentimentally. The Seminoles were a football
school hopelessly misplaced in a basketball league.
Now, with Miami and FSU in the ACC, the Gators are the ones who are misplaced.
Florida officials and old-time fans will tell you there is too much history and
heritage to ever leave the SEC. That's just pride and pigheadedness.
Most Florida fans compare themselves to FSU and Miami, not Auburn and Georgia.
And most Florida fans would rather play Miami every year than Tennessee. With
FSU and UM in the mix, an ACC title suddenly becomes more meaningful to Florida
fans than an SEC championship.
Besides, the SEC-rivalry argument is overblown. The Gators don't even play
Auburn on an annual basis anymore, and the annual series with Tennessee is
barely a decade old. The only rivalry worth preserving is Florida-Georgia, and
those teams still could play even if UF did leave the SEC.
The more you think about the Gators in the ACC, the more it makes sense. Florida
now fancies itself as a basketball school, and what better place for a
basketball school than the ACC?
Florida also likes to think of itself as one of the nation's finest public
institutions of higher learning. The ACC has an exemplary academic reputation.
You hang around with Duke, Virginia and North Carolina, and people talk about
your number of graduates. You hang around with Alabama, Mississippi State and
Kentucky, and people talk about your number of sanctions.
It used to be UF fans lampooned the caliber of football in the ACC (Almost
Competitive Conference), but those days are over. In fact, with Miami, FSU,
Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, Maryland and Virginia, the new ACC has six
legitimate Top 25 programs this year.
On second thought, maybe the Gators better stay in the SEC for a few more years.
They're not quite ready yet to compete with the big boys of the ACC.