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Analysts weigh in on Cavs
/ Daily Progress sports editor
Sep 25, 2002

 
Scattershooting around the ACC, while wondering what two of the game's top TV analysts think about the league's national gridiron perception ...

We asked ESPN's Lee Corso and Bill Curry, a former head coach at Georgia Tech, their thoughts about the ACC on Wednesday and they had varying opinions.

"I think [the national perception] has changed," said Curry, who sent two of his kids to UVa. "It hasn't taken a huge leap up, but the emergence of N.C. State has helped and it looks like Virginia is on the way back up. Clemson and Georgia Tech have a chance and I think the Maryland story was heartwarming a year ago. If Ralph Friedgen can stay at a high level it will help. But the ACC has made some strides from the Big One and the Little Eight."

Corso, who never holds anything back, disagreed.

"The perception is that they [the ACC] are still No. 6 among the [six] BCS conferences," said Corso. "The Big East is fifth. The ACC is going to have to get better than those guys. You've got to go to major bowl games and win for public perception to change. Maryland got waxed [in last year's Orange Bowl].

"A lot of people don't even know that Florida State is even in the ACC," said Corso. "People think that Florida State is in a league of their own. I don't think that Bobby Bowden thinks they're in the ACC."

Complimenting Groh

Curry has been impressed with the job that Al Groh has done thus far at Virginia.

"I have to take my hat off to Al," said Curry. "He's got a lot of young [assistant coaches] out there beating the bushes for talent and seems to have signed a lot of great players, although we won't truly know that for a few years down the road."

Corso said that you can take it to the bank that coaches who have first coached in college, go to the pros and return to the college ranks such as Groh, UNC's John Bunting and Georgia Tech's Chan Gailey have done, will be successful. But Corso believes guys who were strictly pro coaches and then try to make it as college coaches will fail.

"Coaches who started in college ball understand the college game, while a pro won't," said Corso. "Guys who started in college and came back from the pros know more about football than anyone else because while they were in the NFL, they were in it 24 hours a day, seven days a week and that's an advantage."

Sleeping in

Tobacco Road is raving over N.C. State freshman tailback T.A. McLendon, who set a national scoring record while at Albemarle High down in North Carolina last season.

McLendon's friends used to joke that T.A. stood for "Touchdown Anytime."

Maybe it's not a joke. The rookie scored five TDs, including the winning score in overtime at Texas Tech last week. However, he didn't start because he was late for the team bus from the hotel to the stadium because he said he lost track of time.

"He can sleep a little late every week if he runs the ball like that," laughed Wolfpack coach Chuck Amato. "I think he was taking a little cat nap because he knew the game was going into overtime and he

would have to run that much harder."

Mayberry RFD. There's a new sheriff in town down in Durham, Duke football coach Carl Franks.

Franks was named honorary sheriff by the Durham sheriff's department this week for saving the life of a man a year ago. Franks went to Rolling View Marina on Falls Lake near Durham last September to retrieve his boat, but ended up pulling a man from a submerged vehicle that had plunged into the lake after the man has suffered a seizure.

Franks won't be allowed to wear the badge, but will receive an honorary bullet. Hey, didn't Barney Fife carry just one bullet?

Hit parade. The old man can still take a hit.

You might have seen Duke tight end Calen Powell bowl over Florida State coach Bobby Bowden in highlights of last week's game. The 72-year-old Bowden bounced right back up, put on his hat and kept on coaching.

"That's as good a hit as I've had I believe since college," said Bowden with a chuckle. "To be honest with you, it didn't hurt. It's amazing. It should have killed me, but it didn't hurt. It's the worst fear you have. I've seen coaches get their legs broken. I was afraid he'd catch me in the back of my legs and ruin my golf game."

Never passing up a chance to kid his father, Clemson coach Tommy Bowden said he was "very disappointed" with his dad's lack of toughness on the collision.

"What a non-athlete," said son Tommy. "The guy just touched him ... just grazed him and he went down."

Injury report. The ACC's top two rushers from a year ago, Maryland's Bruce Perry and Wake Forest's Tarence Williams, are finally back in action.

Perry suffered an injury in preseason and just made it back for a little work against Eastern Michigan last week. He should get more time against Wofford on Saturday. Williams broke his foot falling out of a bunk bed in July and returned to action against Purdue for a few carries, leaving Deacs coach Jim Grobe to comment, "Tarence is close to being back at full speed ... starting to look like the old Tarence Williams."

Georgia Tech will start true freshman Ajenavi "Ace" Eziemefe, from New Orleans at tailback vs. UNC in place of the nation's leading rusher, Tony Hollings, who blew out a knee against BYU last Saturday. With upperclassmen Sidney Ford out with headaches stemming from a concussion and Gordon Clinkscale injured, it's up to Ezimefe to get the job done.

Hollings is the second Techster lost in the last week after All-American defensive end Greg Gathers (the Jackets' career leader in sacks with 31) is through due to a kidney disorder.

Things you didn't know. UVa's Al Groh has not been back to Wake Forest since he was head coach there in 1986. ...N.C. State coach Chuck Amato's brother, Rosario is an ACC ref but isn't allowed to officiate Wolfpack games.

Florida State is tied for the most players on NFL rosters with 39, sharing the top spot with Florida and Notre Dame. Ironically, FSU will play both the Gators and Irish this season. Michigan is fourth with 38 and yet another FSU opponent, Miami, is fifth with 35. FYI, Virginia has 24.

Short yardage ... Virginia played 21 true or redshirt freshmen in last week's win over Akron... UVa and Wake Forest are tied for No. 1 in the nation in turnovers gained with 16 apiece. ...The ACC has six bowl deals but if only five teams qualify, the conference would drop out of the Seattle Bowl. ...FSU has not trailed for a single second this season. ...12 of Wake's first 15 games under Coach Jim Grobe have been decided by seven points or less. ...While playing golf with this columnist, Grobe, who played at UVa under Sonny Randle, said that he has been around a lot of stadiums in the country, but thought that what Virginia has done to Scott Stadium makes it the most beautiful football arena in the nation. ...Wake QB James McPherson has thrown 89 passes in a row without an interception, dating back to last season's win over Northern Illinois. ...ACC teams have scored 14 TDs this season by either defense or special teams, five of those by N.C. State and three by Virginia, the second most in the league. ...The Deacs gave up 477 yards last week and won, while Duke's opponent this week, Navy, gained 678 yards and lost.

 

The picks. Last week: 5-2. To date: 20-10. This week: Duke 36, Navy 33; Florida State 50, Louisville 17; North Carolina 24, Georgia Tech 19; Maryland 41, Wofford 0; N.C. State 44, U Mass 10; Virginia 36, Wake Forest 34.


 

 

Wake Forest making a run at success
/ Daily Progress staff writer
Sep 26, 2002

 
Blake Henry loves Wake Forest's offense, and well he should. As a senior guard for the Demon Deacons, he gets to drive block over and over again every game. Rarely does he rock back on his heels.

"In pass blocking, you have to wait for guys to attack you. You can't be overly aggressive," Henry said. "When you run as much as we do, you can take it to them. As an offensive lineman, that's exactly what you want to do - take it to people."

When Jim Grobe took his run-oriented offense to Wake Forest last year, skeptics wondered whether it would be as effective there as it was at Air Force and Ohio, his previous coaching stops.

The answer, so far, is yes. The Demon Deacons led the ACC in rushing a year ago and are doing so again this season. That is the biggest reason both for their four-game improvement (from 2-9 in 2000 to 6-5 last year) and for the program's changing reputation in the conference.

Tough. Rugged. Physical.

Those were not words associated with Wake Forest in the past. Now they are. And the players say it's clear who is responsible.

"That's Coach Grobe for you right there," said junior guard Tyson Clabo. "He's a real here-it-comes kind of guy and that rubs off on you. When we play, we come right at people. We ran the ball 69 times last week. That's what I'm talking about."

Indeed, the Demon Deacons rushed 69 times for 248 yards in a 24-21 victory at Purdue last Saturday. Senior quarterback James MacPherson threw just 12 times, completing nine for 120 yards.

That formula also helped Wake Forest end its 17-game losing streak to Virginia last year. The ground game produced 248 yards on 51 carries, but MacPherson was efficient as a passer, going 12 for 19 for 188 yards. His 64-yard touchdown pass to Jason Anderson with 1:42 remaining gave the Deacons a 34-30 victory.

When the teams meet again Saturday night at Groves Stadium, both sporting identical 2-2 records, the challenge for the Cavaliers will be slowing down Wake's rushing attack while staying vigilant against the pass. That won't be easy: Virginia ranks last in the ACC in rushing defense and total defense.

"Offensively, they're probably quite unique [compared] to the teams we've played this year," said UVa coach Al Groh. "You can see elements of I-formation power running. You can see elements of wishbone offense, a little wing-T stuff in there. I'd say in comparison they're a blend of what Air Force and Nebraska do."

The Demon Deacons insist their scheme is straightforward and simple. At Air Force and Ohio, where he effected similar turnarounds, Grobe used a more complex option attack centered around the quarterback. At Wake Forest, he found more running talent at tailback, so most plays involve straight handoffs and pitches.

"We really molded the offense to fit the talent of the players," said Grobe, who played middle guard and linebacker for Virginia in the mid-'70s.

"It's completely different than what we did at Air Force and Ohio," said offensive coordinator Troy Calhoun, who has been part of Grobe's staff at all three stops. "We're much more centered around the tailback. Last year our tailbacks averaged 37 carries a game. The whole idea is to put the ball in the hands of your best players. For us, that's our tailbacks."

Tarence Williams benefited from that approach last year, when he rushed for 1,018 yards and earned second-team All-ACC honors. Slowed by a stress fracture in his foot, he has gained just 72 yards in three games this season. Fred Staton, who ran for 151 yards against Virginia a year ago, is sitting out this season for academic reasons.

Four of Wake's top seven offensive linemen from 2001 are gone. Anderson also has been out with a separated shoulder, though he may see limited action Saturday.

Despite it all, the Demon Deacons have been able to keep their offense running smoothly. They are averaging 230.5 rushing yards per game, compared to 221.6 a year ago, and they are doing it by committee.

Seven players have carried between 18 to 44 times. Nick Burney, a junior from Richmond, leads the way with 225 yards. Senior fullback Ovie Mughelli, who had no carries last year, scored four touchdowns in the season opener and now has a team-high five TDs. Two freshmen, Cornelius Birgs and Chris Barclay, each have three rushing touchdowns.

The offensive line also has held up well with less depth. Wake Forest rotated 10 or 11 linemen in each game last season. Now there are only a few backups. Henry played all 83 offensive snaps against Purdue and had 18 knockdown blocks to earn ACC offensive lineman of the week honors.

"There definitely hasn't been a lot of tradition here, so we're trying to develop one," said Henry, who was born in Fairfax and said he might have gone to Virginia had the previous staff recruited him harder. "Virginia is the opposite. They've been one of the top-tier teams in the ACC for the last decade or so.

"Here a lot of people have kind of accepted that, yeah, we'll play hard but in the end we're probably going to lose. Guys now believe we're going to win, no matter what. That's Coach Grobe's influence. Losing is not acceptable anymore."

 

 

Deacons, Barclay found right timing
Running back, Wake Forest a good match

By Dan Collins
JOURNAL REPORTER
 

Ever since Tarence Williams broke his foot in June, Coach Jim Grobe of Wake Forest has been asked to fix a problem that, in his mind at least, doesn't exist.

"I keep having a lot of people asking me 'Are you ever going to go with one running back more than the other ones?' " Grobe said last Saturday, standing outside the locker room at Purdue's Ross-Ade Stadium.

Grobe was smiling and could afford to. Using four different running backs, the Deacons had rushed 69 times for 248 yards and three touchdowns in a vital 24-21 victory. And leading the ground charge was a freshman, Chris Barclay, who this time a year ago was playing for Male High School in Louisville.

Williams, last year's leading rusher with 1,018 yards, contributed as well, turning in his best performance of the season with 12 carries for 50 yards. But it was Barclay, a back of similar size, ability and heart, who caused the Boilermakers the most problems as he rushed 19 times for 70 yards and three touchdowns.

In doing so, he became the first Deacon since Anthony Williams in 1988 to score three touchdowns in a game during his first season.

"We really felt like the guy with the hot hand was Chris Barclay," Grobe said. "I think everybody can see real quick that he's special.

"We were scared to death when we started playing him as a true freshman because we didn't know if we would get enough snaps out of him. I promised him we would keep trying to work with him.

"I think after (Saturday), we will probably continue to try to work with him."

Grobe and his staff were fortunate to see something special in Barclay, because few other NCAA Division I-A programs did. Recruited early by Boston College, Northwestern and Purdue, Barclay's options were steadily drying up when Wake Forest offered a scholarship last October.

Barclay said he was getting ready to commit to Boston College the day Wake Forest called, only to find out that B.C. - like Northwestern and Purdue before it - was wavering on its offer.

"It was a blessing, I guess I can say," Barclay said. "Wake Forest kind of came in during a tough time in the recruiting game when things weren't going really well for me."

Grobe said he suspects that the other programs sized up Barclay physically, and, at 5-10, 175 pounds, found him lacking. But while some programs look for bigger backs to provide more pass protection, the Deacons are continuously on the lookout for backs with the quickness to hit holes fast and the vision to turn a seam into an expressway to paydirt.

"He's a guy who for most people was a little bit undersized," Grobe said. "He had really good track times, and we loved what he did on film. We feel like in our running game we need a guy who can get through holes pretty quick.

"So he had the foot speed and quickness and explosion that you look for in a running back. For us it was a no-brainer."

Barclay arrived at Wake Forest in June for summer school, expecting to be redshirted along with most of the rest of his class. Then he heard about Williams' injury and the academic difficulties that sidelined backup Fred Staton for the season.

"I knew the running back spot would be kind of slim," Barclay said. "After camp, Coach pulled me aside and said I had had a good camp, and he told me I was going to go this year. I said, 'O.K.'

"I knew I had a lot of big shoes to fill, and I just wanted to do what I can to help us out."

The shoes belonged to Williams, to whom Barclay bears an uncanny resemblance. But Grobe said that the comparisons between Barclay and the 5-10, 178 pound Williams extend beyond their physical size.

Actually, it was Williams who was the host during Barclay's recruiting trip. The two formed a bond that has only gotten stronger in the months since.

"He has all the same traits as far as heart and desire and work ethic and all those kinds of things," Grobe said. "All of the intangibles are there, plus he's got good speed, and he's got a knack, like Tarence.

"He can see things a lot better than a lot of running backs. He sees creases and seams, and he gets through them. And he's not afraid of anything. I don't know if we would call him a pleasant surprise because we expected him to be really good. We just didn't expect it to happen his first year."

Nor, for that matter, did Barclay. But now that he has spent a year of eligibility - he played his fourth game against Purdue, marking the point of no return - Barclay said he wants to make the most of his first season at Wake Forest.

"When they call my name I just have to get the job done, whatever it is," Barclay said. "If it means I have to score a few touchdowns, I'll do my best. And if it means I have to get three yards in a crunch-time situation, I'll do my best at that too."

 

 

For Schaub, It's Worth the Wait
Virginia QB Among Nation's Leaders

By Jim Reedy
Special to The Washington Post
Thursday, September 26, 2002; Page D03

CHARLOTTESVILLE -- Upon arriving at Virginia, quarterback Matt Schaub watched from the sideline as starter Dan Ellis endured two seasons of intermittent criticism from fans and media. When Ellis graduated, Schaub spent the 2001 season battling classmate Bryson Spinner for playing time. Then Spinner transferred, but redshirt freshman Marques Hagans made an unexpected run at what was supposed to be Schaub's starting job.

Fortunately for the Cavaliers, Schaub is not easily fazed.

"I try not to get too high or too low in any situation, whether it's sports or not athletically related," Schaub said. "You never know what might come up next, and you have to be ready for adversity. Remaining on an even keel is important. That's the way I look at things."

That demeanor has enabled Schaub to emerge apparently unscarred from a somewhat tumultuous introduction to college football. But it also means that now, after the best three-game stretch of his college career, the 6-foot-5 redshirt junior chooses not to revel in his first prolonged taste of individual success.

In those three games{ndash}despite sitting out nearly the entire first half against Florida State -- Schaub completed 58 of 82 passes for 619 yards and 11 touchdowns. Though the overall yardage wasn't overwhelming, the performances pushed him up among the national leaders in touchdown passes, completion percentage and passing efficiency.

"It's how I envisioned I could play, and now I know I can play," Schaub said.

That was up for debate a month ago, after Virginia Coach Al Groh decided to use Hagans, one of the team's best athletes, in the season opener against Colorado State. Splitting time fairly evenly with Schaub, Hagans clearly played better that night and nearly sparked the Cavaliers to a last-minute comeback victory.

"I think it was a wake-up call," Schaub said. "There were some throws against Colorado State that were incomplete that should have been completed. I think we all knew that as a team. It's my job to get the ball to the guy."

Nine days later, Groh started Hagans at Florida State. But Schaub, by this point familiar with quarterback shuffles, said he "tried to just block those things out because I knew that at some point I'd get my opportunity again."

Said senior co-captain Angelo Crowell: "Matt always kept a positive attitude, no matter what the coaches' decisions were. You never saw a sour look or an angry look on his face."

When he got the call, late in the first half, to rescue Hagans from the fifth-ranked Seminoles, Schaub did not disappoint. His first pass was a 59-yard sideline strike to wide receiver Billy McMullen, and his final statistics included 19 completions on 25 attempts, 247 passing yards and three touchdowns.

Similar performances followed in Virginia's wins against South Carolina and Akron. Now, as the Cavaliers (2-2, 0-1 ACC) return to conference play with Saturday night's game at Wake Forest, Schaub is tied for second in the nation with 12 touchdown passes; fifth with a .688 completion percentage; and seventh with a passing efficiency rating of 164.3. To a degree, Schaub's statistical accuracy seems to be the result of Virginia's offensive approach. Nearly two-thirds of the team's receptions are by running backs and tight ends, which has given Schaub a yards-per-attempt average lower than each of the nation's other top 25 passers.

"There are certain situations where you've just got to keep the ball in your hands -- make first downs, keep the defense off the field -- and there are some times when it calls for big plays being made in the passing game," said Schaub, who has found McMullen deep a handful of times. "We have to be able to do both."

Groh has commended Schaub's recent play on several occasions in the past month, but he cautioned against reading too much into a handful of games. He said he doesn't yet know whether Schaub "has turned the proverbial corner.

"I've been [coaching] since 1968 and I don't feel like I've turned the corner yet, so I wouldn't say that my quarterback, after 21/2 games, has turned the corner," Groh said. "But he is in a nice groove right now. . . . I think he's very comfortable with what we're doing with the offense.

"As they say, you're only as good as your next competition."

 

 

Freshman impacting Wake Forest backfield

By BILL HASS, Staff Writer
News & Record

Chris Barclay has made a difficult decision look like an easy one for Wake Forest's football coaching staff.

The freshman was so impressive in preseason camp they decided not to redshirt him. The decision looked especially good when Barclay scored three touchdowns in a 24-21 victory over Purdue on Saturday.

"There's no way I expected this," Barclay said. "Three touchdowns sounds a little far-fetched."

When the Deacons play Virginia on Saturday night at Groves Stadium, Barclay will be one component of what is now a four-headed tailback. Coach Jim Grobe has no regrets about the decision, however.

"It was a really tough call, because we try to redshirt all our freshmen if we can," Grobe said. "If we decide to take the shirt off someone, we want to make sure he plays enough to make it worthwhile.

"In our last full-speed scrimmage (before the opener), Chris went against our No. 1 defense. He got tattooed pretty good, but never took a backward step. I was scared to death about the decision, but now it looks great."

Barclay, a 5-foot-10, 175-pounder from Louisville, Ky., chose Wake over Boston College and Northwestern after being impressed by the Deacons' coaching staff, plus the weather and the atmosphere of the Winston-Salem campus.

He expected to redshirt, spending this year practicing but not playing in games. But when senior Tarence Williams broke a foot this summer and clearly was not going to be ready for the opener, and top backup Fred Staton became academically ineligible, the coaches reconsidered.

"At the end of camp the coaches told me I was going to go this year," Barclay said. "I was pretty much ecstatic. Not many freshmen get that opportunity. I was glad to hear the coaches had confidence in me to take the shirt off.

"I remember that scrimmage. The offense gave the defense a good look and I was able to gain some yardage. The defense was hitting and so was the offense. Camp got me really prepared for the season. I'm not feeling nearly as much pain now as I did in camp."

With Williams hurt and Staton out, running backs coach Billy Mitchell wanted a third runner in the rotation to keep everyone fresh. Junior Nick Burney and redshirt freshman Cornelius Birgs were the first two and Barclay earned the third spot.

"Chris picked up what we were doing," Mitchell said. "He's pretty quick and reminds me of Tarence. He's not a polished blocker yet and he needs to learn some techniques about running. But he handles himself well, does fine in the mental part and has the confidence he can play."

Barclay has carried 37 times for 180 yards and those three TDs. Williams, as he plays his way back into shape, will likely get more carries.

That may mean fewer touches for the other tailbacks, but Barclay just wants to take advantage of his opportunities. The coaches have made it easier by letting a tailback stay in for the duration of a drive rather than rotating them every three or four plays.

"I'm still learning daily about what I can and can't do," Barclay said. "I know I can make better reads and improve my footwork.

"At my size, I can't run over defenses, but I have good speed and field vision. And when I'm in the game, if our linemen know one thing about me it's that I'll go all out every play."

 

 

ACC NOTES
 

 

 
TOUGH STRETCH: Georgia Tech is coming off a difficult week. First, the Yellow Jackets lost All-America defensive end Greg Gathers, who has a kidney disorder and will apply for a medical redshirt. Then, in Tech's victory over BYU last weekend, junior tailback Tony Hollings tore the anterior cruciate ligament and the lateral meniscus in his right knee.

Hollings, the nation's leading rusher, will miss the rest of the season. He was averaging 158.2 yards per game and 6.9 per carry.

"You always have adversity during the course of the season," first-year coach Chan Gailey said. "You just have to deal with it, and that's what I think our team is poised to do."

Georgia Tech (0-1, 3-1) visits North Carolina (0-0, 1-2) on Saturday. With Hollings out, Georgia Tech's top tailbacks are true freshmen Ace Eziemefe and Michael Sampson. Eziemefe carried nine times for 25 yards and a touchdown in the win over BYU. Sampson has yet to play.

Gathers, the Jackets' career leader in sacks, has been taking medicine for a kidney ailment since mid-July. Gailey said doctors say there "is a very high probability that he'll be able to come back 100 percent [in 2003]. That is why Greg made the decision he made."

RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT TIME: Wake Forest leads the ACC with a plus-12 turnover margin. The Demon Deacons, who have turned over the ball only four times, have recovered nine fumbles and intercepted seven passes.

"I think it's probably half dumb luck and half effort on the part of the defensive kids," second-year coach Jim Grobe said.

LATE BLOOMER: Wake (0-1, 2-2) plays host Saturday night to Virginia (0-1, 2-2). The Deacons' starters include senior defensive end Roderick Stephen, who was a two-time All-Metro selection at Thomas Dale High.

Stephen made only two starts in his first three seasons at Wake, and "we didn't really know if Rod was a guy we could win with, let alone start," Grobe said.

Those questions were answered in spring practice. "He's been a very pleasant surprise for us," Grobe said. "He's been very steady."

At 6-4, 250 pounds, Stephen is probably best-suited to playing end in a 4-3 scheme. Because of a lack of depth, however, Wake plays with three defensive linemen, and that makes Stephen's job more difficult.

"He's pretty much lined up across from the offensive tackle most snaps," Grobe said, "and sometimes he gets outmuscled."

JUST ANOTHER GAME: If his first game in 16 years at Wake's Groves Stadium means much to U.Va. coach Al Groh, he's not letting on.

"I think I'm well beyond the point where going against former teams has much sentimental effect on me," said Groh, who coached Wake from 1981 to'86.

TOP OF THE CHART: N.C. State tailback T.A. McLendon set an ACC freshman record for single-game scoring Saturday. McLendon, a true freshman, scored five touchdowns in the Wolfpack's overtime win over Texas Tech.

LIGHTING IT UP: U.Va. junior Matt Schaub leads ACC quarterbacks with a 68.8 completion percentage. His 12 touchdown passes (in four games) are by far the most in the conference. Next is N.C. State junior Philip Rivers, with nine TD passes in five games.

WELCOME BACK: Maryland junior tailback Bruce Perry, the ACC offensive player of the year in 2001, is expected to play Saturday against Division I-AA Wofford.

The defending ACC champion Terrapins have sorely missed Perry, who's been sidelined with a torn groin muscle. Maryland (0-1, 2-2) has the conference's worst rushing offense (130 yards per game).

TALENT UPGRADE: On playing true freshmen, Duke coach Carl Franks said: "Your job [as a recruiter] is to go out there and find players who are better than the ones you have. If you do that, you're probably going to play a lot of true freshmen."

PAINFUL EXPERIENCE: Clemson (1-0, 3-1), off this weekend, plays host next Thursday to Florida State (3-0, 4-0). The Seminoles visit Louisville (2-2) tonight.

Asked if it's still fun to face his father's FSU team, Clemson's fourth-year coach, Tommy Bowden, said, "I don't know if 'fun' would be the right word, because this profession is determined by wins and losses."

The'Noles beat his Tigers 17-14 in 1999, 54-7 in 2000 and 41-27 last season. - Jeff White