
Cavs are in limbo for bowl
By JOHN GALINSKY
/ Daily Progress staff writer
Dec 3, 2002
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As other ACC teams began selling tickets for their bowl games Monday,
the Virginia football team went another day without knowing its postseason
fate.
The Continental Tire Bowl will invite the Cavaliers today if Virginia
Tech is ruled out as an option for the game, said Ken Haines, the bowl's
executive director.
"I'm going to talk to Big East [Conference] officials and if that's
what they say, we will be happy to take Virginia," Haines said Monday
night.
Ideally, Haines said, the bowl, held Dec. 28 in Charlotte, N.C., would
like to match Virginia (8-5) and No. 15 West Virginia (9-3), former rivals
who have not met since 1985.
That can only happen, however, if No. 11 Notre Dame does not receive an
at-large bid to the Bowl Championship Series and takes West Virginia's
spot in the Gator Bowl.
The BCS bids won't be determined until this weekend, so Haines said the
Continental Tire is looking at other options in case West Virginia is not
available. Its second choice is to have Virginia Tech (9-3) play Georgia
Tech (7-5).
A matchup of Virginia and No. 25 Pittsburgh (8-4) is less attractive,
Haines said, so the bowl is holding off on inviting the Cavaliers until it
knows whether Virginia Tech is available. Neither Virginia nor Virginia
Tech is interested in playing each other again, so there will not be a
rematch of last Saturday's game in Blacksburg.
The Hokies are expected to go to the Insight Bowl, but Big East
officials may try to place them in Charlotte if West Virginia goes to the
Gator.
If so, the Cavaliers, who have already been left out of the ACC's top
four bowls, may wind up with the only remaining option – the Dec. 30
Seattle Bowl.
"There are dominos falling all over the place," Haines said. "We'll
know more [today] or we'll have to wait until this weekend."
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Virginia breaks top 25 in polls
By ANDREW JOYNER
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Daily Progress staff writer
Dec 3, 2002
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The Virginia men's basketball moved into the national rankings when
the polls were released Monday.
The Cavaliers (3-1) were ranked No. 22 in the Associated Press poll and
No. 23 in the ESPN/USA Today poll.
The Cavaliers, who face No. 21 Michigan State in East Lansing, Mich.,
on Wednesday, were not ranked in the first three polls of the season.
Last season, Virginia rose to No. 4 in the AP poll after a 9-0 start
but fell out of the rankings after losing 10 of its final 13 contests.
Mapp update. UVa coach Pete Gillen said Monday that junior point guard
Majestic Mapp likely will not play in December but labeled his progression
as "better."
Gillen said that Mapp, who has missed the past two seasons with a torn
ACL in his right knee, has seen both Dr. Norman Scott, a physician for the
New York Knicks, and Dr. James Andrews of Birmingham in recent weeks and
both gave the guard reason to believe he could return to the court at some
point this season.
"He's doing better and has been getting exercise. He's seen two of the
best doctors alive, dead and yet to be born. Both of them are confident
that the knee can get back there," Gillen said. "How much discomfort he
can endure is up to him. There's a chance but I don't want to put
percentages on it. We're hoping to get him back and we need him."
Mapp returned to practice after some soreness in the knee in October
and has been dressed and participated in layup drills and warmups in each
of Virginia's four regular-season games to date.
Harper's status. Gillen reiterated Monday that he has not decided when
or if the suspension of sophomore guard Jermaine Harper will be lifted.
Harper was suspended indefinitely for a violation of team rules on Nov.
12. That came a day after Harper was arrested and charged with driving
under the influence in Albemarle County. Harper has not practiced with the
team nor participated in any games since. He was spotted in the crowd at
Virginia's home opener against Long Island on Nov. 22.
"We don't have a timetable. We got to see if he's doing what's he
supposed to be doing academically and with other things. We would like to
have him back but that's up to Jermaine," Gillen said. "He's a great kid
but he made a very bad decision. We'll have to follow up to see if he's
doing what he supposed to be doing in class and off the court, etc.,
before we decide to invite him back."
Advance scout? Former UVa and Gillen assistant Tommy Herrion is 5-0 at
the helm of the College of Charleston after his team captured the Great
Alaska Shootout this past weekend.
Charleston defeated Wyoming, Oklahoma State and Villanova en route to
the title.
Michigan State, Virginia's opponent Wednesday in the ACC/Big 10
Challenge, was also a participant in the Alaska field. The Spartans fell
to both Villanova and Oklahoma State in the tournament.
If Herrion did a little scouting for his old boss while in Alaska,
Gillen certainly wasn't telling Monday.
"We did have some scouting out there and it was Alfredo Backa. No, we
had somebody there. It was the maintenance man I think," Gillen joked.
"[Michigan State coach] Tom Izzo calls more plays than Shakespeare so we
are in trouble."
After finishing his mini comedy routine, Gillen acknowledged that he
did call to congratulate Herrion on Monday morning.
"I spoke to him this morning and on Friday before his game against
Oklahoma State," Gillen said. "He's ecstatic. I told him that he's
unbelievable. To win those three games is phenomenal and I was thrilled
for him."
Free throws. Heading into this week's ACC/Big 10 Challenge, ACC teams
are a combined 25-1, including a 4-1 mark against ranked opponents. The
league's one defeat is Virginia's loss to No. 10 Indiana in the
championship game of last week's Maui Invitational. … Virginia's Travis
Watson has three double-doubles so far this season. Watson now has 41 on
his career, the most by an active ACC player.
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Bowls, ACC put screws to Virginia
By DOUG DOUGHTY
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Until there is compelling evidence to the contrary, the only thing that Virginia
football fans can surmise is that the ACC is in bed with the bowls.
With every passing day comes word that a bowl has snubbed Virginia in favor of a
team the Cavaliers defeated, and now there is a report that the ACC office is
working feverishly to find a spot for Wake Forest.
For those who might not have checked out the ACC standings thoroughly, Wake is
6-6 overall and stands seventh in the conference at 3-5. The only reason the
Deacons are even bowl-eligible is a waiver approved by the NCAA after it
ratified a 12-game schedule.
Maybe the ACC can wield some influence with an outside bowl because it surely
doesn't have any influence with its affiliates - the Peach, Gator, Tangerine,
Continental Tire and Seattle bowls.
That assumes, however, that the ACC has had an interest in promoting a Virginia
team that tied Maryland for second and has played a tougher nonconference
schedule than any other ACC team next to Florida State.
This isn't the first time Virginia has gotten the shaft.
In 1995, the Cavaliers tied Florida State for first in the ACC and the Gator
Bowl picked Clemson ahead of them. In 1997, the Cavaliers tied for third and the
Peach Bowl went with fifth-place Clemson. In 1998, a 6-5 Clemson squad went to
the Peach Bowl ahead of 7-4 UVa.
Did you hear the explanation given by Tangerine Bowl president Tom Mickle for
going with a fifth-place Clemson team this year? He said his committee was
impressed by Clemson's big win over archrival South Carolina.
South Carolina? That's another team UVa defeated. Clemson had to come from
behind to beat a 5-7 South Carolina team at Clemson. Big deal.
Skeptics would say that the Cavaliers haven't traveled well. They haven't in
three trips to the Carquest Bowl and its later incarnation, the Micronpc.com
Bowl, but the Gator and Peach have been a different story.
ACC commissioner John Swofford is a decent man, but if you continue to
perpetuate a crooked system, what does that say? Swofford, in the one year that
the ACC was responsible for running the BCS, was the face of the bowl system.
You wonder what the NCAA would find if it scrutinized the bowls the way it has
investigated some student-athletes. The NCAA has little control over the bowls,
whose agreements are with the conferences.
Even when his first Virginia team went 5-7, Virginia coach A Groh made no secret
of his preference for a playoff system. This year, unranked UVa (8-5) would not
be a part of even the most generous, 16-team playoff system, but I doubt that
would change his mind.
ACC assistant commissioner Mike Finn said Saturday that he remained partial to
the bowls because players from 28 teams get to end their seasons on a happy
note. For Virginia, things couldn't get much happier.
At one time, when Gene Corrigan was the ACC commissioner and Dick Schultz was
president of the NCAA, Virginia had friends in high places. Now, they're in a
situation where Peach Bowl president Gary Stokan is an N.C. State graduate,
Continental Tire Bowl president Ken Haines has a degree from Virginia Tech and
Mickle is a jilted one-time Virginia AD candidate.
For all the politics, Virginia would have been Peach Bowl bound if N.C. State
had not upset Florida State. A loss to the Seminoles would have dropped the
Wolfpack two games behind UVa and Maryland in the standings and left State
ineligible for the Gator or Peach bowls.
Athletic director Craig Littlepage talked Saturday of not being as accommodating
the next time the ACC wants the Cavaliers to play a made-for-TV intersectional
game, but such scheduling timidity never hurt N.C. State with the ACC. UVa needs
to make a stronger statement than that.
Tech, U.Va. bide time until bids
Destinations depend on Notre Dame
BY MIKE HARRIS AND JEFF WHITE
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITERS Dec 03, 2002
Virginia could end up in the Dec. 28 Continental Tire Bowl. So could Virginia
Tech, which beat U.Va. 21-9 on Saturday in Blacksburg. The only thing certain,
after a day filled with surprising developments, is that the Cavaliers and the
Hokies won't play each other in the new Charlotte, N.C., bowl, which matches
teams from the ACC and the Big East.
Ken Haines, the Continental Tire's executive director, said last night that his
bowl almost certainly will feature one of two matchups: U.Va. vs. West Virginia
or Virginia Tech vs. Georgia Tech.
"We think either one of those games would do very well in Charlotte," Haines
said.
That said, the Charlotte bowl doesn't plan to extend bids until the Bowl
Championship Series field is set Sunday. "We're in a holding pattern," Haines
said.
Notre Dame will decide the postseason fates of this state's Division I-A
programs. Should the Fighting Irish earn an at-large bid to the BCS, West
Virginia would represent the Big East in the Jan. 1 Gator Bowl, and Virginia
Tech would fill the Big East's slot in the Continental Tire, against Georgia
Tech.
That would send U.Va. to the Dec. 30 Seattle Bowl to face a Mountain West
Conference team.
Pittsburgh would represent the Big East in the Dec. 26 Insight Bowl in Phoenix,
and Boston College would go to the new San Francisco Bowl on New Year's Eve.
If Notre Dame is left out of the BCS, it would drop to the Gator, sending WVU to
the Continental Tire to meet U.Va. In that case, Tech almost certainly would go
to San Francisco to face New Mexico, though the Insight Bowl remains a
possibility. If Tech somehow ends up in Phoenix, its opponent would be UCLA,
Washington or Oregon State of the Pac 10.
A Washington State win over UCLA on Saturday would seriously damage Notre Dame's
hopes of landing one of the BCS' two at-large berths.
Tech (3-3, 9-3) plays top-ranked Miami (6-0, 11-0) in a Big East showdown
Saturday at the Orange Bowl. Virginia's regular season is over. Sunday night,
Athletic Director Craig Littlepage said he was confident that the Cavaliers
(8-5) would get invited yesterday to the Continental Tire. Given that neither
U.Va. nor Tech is interested in playing the other in Charlotte, however, bowl
officials de- cided to wait.
Had the Continental Tire gone ahead and invited the Wahoos, it might have been
forced to pair them with Pittsburgh. That matchup, Haines said, is "certainly
not near as attractive" to the Charlotte bowl as U.Va.-WVU or Virginia
Tech-Georgia Tech.
After beating U.Va. on Saturday, the Hokies appeared destined for Phoenix.
Insight Bowl representative Evan Paoletti went into Tech's locker room after the
game and issued an unofficial invitation.
According to numerous sources, however, things changed during negotiations with
bowl officials and conference officials yesterday. The Continental Tire wanted
either Virginia Tech or West Virginia from the Big East. Unlike Pitt, those
schools are known for having fans that travel in large numbers to bowls. So two
scenarios were worked out, each favorable to the Charlotte bowl.
Hokies coach Frank Beamer said yesterday the Miami game is his team's biggest
concern right now.
"All the scenarios have us going to a great bowl, so we're in a good situation.
We know we'll be somewhere," Beamer said before moving his practice indoors
because of heavy winds.
For Virginia, yesterday's developments represented yet another setback. The ACC
has six bowl tie-ins, including the BCS, and the Cavaliers - despite tying for
second in the conference with Maryland - could well end up in the one it
considers least desirable, the Seattle.
For a variety of reasons, including Virginia fans' reputation for not turning
out in force for bowls, one bowl after another has turned down second-year Al
Groh's club. The Gator grabbed N.C. State, a team U.Va. beat. The Peach picked
Maryland, a team U.Va. hammered 48-13 last month. The Tangerine chose Clemson, a
team U.Va. beat in October.
"Nothing that these [bowl] people do surprises me," Groh said Sunday night.
Mines chooses U.Va. over Tech
BY JEFF WHITE
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Dec 03, 2002
Hermitage High football standout Fontel Mines, who spent the weekend in
Blacksburg, said last night that he plans to spend his college years in
Charlottesville.
Mines, a 6-5, 210-pound senior, chose the University of Virginia over Virginia
Tech. He visited Tech over the weekend and watched the Hokies beat the Cavaliers
21-9 at Lane Stadium.
"Obviously, they're both good schools," Mines said. "I just felt right at U.Va."
Mines has been compared to Virginia's all-ACC wideout, senior Billy McMullen, a
graduate of Henrico High. The 6-4, 210-pound McMullen has thrived in offensive
coordinator Bill Musgrave's system, catching 83 passes in 2001 and 68 this
season, and Mines sees himself filling that same role.
"I like to catch the ball a lot," Mines said, "and that's the place I think I
can do that."
Virginia's receivers coach, Mike Groh, recruited Mines, who helped the Panthers
to an unbeaten regular season. Hermitage lost to Thomas Dale in the Central
Region, Division 6 semifinals. Mines was named to the all-Colonial District
team. The all-Central Region team has yet to been announced.
Another Hermitage senior, tight end Duane Brown, also is expected to choose
between Virginia and Tech.
"If it's U.Va., then we'll play together," Mines said. "If it's Tech, we'll
enjoy the competition."
U.VA. NOTES
Dec 03, 2002
SHORT-HANDED: The Virginia men's basketball team enters tomorrow night's ACC/Big
Ten Challenge game at Michigan State with a 3-1 record and a deep, talented
frontcourt led by 6-8 senior Travis Watson (16 ppg, 11.5 rpg) and 6-9 sophomore
Elton Brown (11.5 ppg).
For the Cavaliers to contend in the ACC, however, they'll need more consistent
production from their backcourt. Sophomore Keith Jenifer has been up and down,
and junior Todd Billet, who sat out last season as a transfer, is getting
reacquainted to the pace of Division I hoops. Derrick Byars, a gifted freshman,
can play shooting guard, but for now, at least, seems more comfortable at small
forward.
Unfortunately for U.Va. coach Pete Gillen, he won't have a full complement of
guards any time soon. Sophomore shooting guard Jermaine Harper remains
suspended, and junior point guard Majestic Mapp won't play until next month at
the earliest, Gillen said yesterday.
Harper was charged Nov. 12 with driving under the influence and hasn't played or
practiced with the team since. "He's a great kid, but he made a very bad
decision," Gillen said.
No date has been set for Harper's return, Gillen said. "We've got to see if he's
doing what he's supposed to be doing, academically and other things."
Mapp hasn't played since the 1999-2000 season because of problems with his right
knee. He's been examined by two prominent doctors recently, including New York
Knicks physician Norman Scott, and "both said the same thing: The knee's fine,
he just needs to strengthen the muscles around it," Gillen said. "They both feel
confident he can get back."
CHANGE OF HEART? Defensive lineman Robert Armstrong, one of Virginia's
commitments for 2003, dropped out of Fork Union Military Academy last month, and
his plans are uncertain. John Shuman, who coaches FUMA's postgraduate team, said
yesterday that Armstrong might end up at Maryland or Ohio State after this
semester ends.
Armstrong, who failed to meet NCAA eligibility requirements as a high school
senior, decided he'd had enough of military life after raising his
standardized-test score at Fork Union.
"He said, 'I'm eligible, and I'm not going to stay here any more,'"Shuman said.
Armstrong, who's from Arlington, couldn't be reached for comment. But Shuman
said the agreement Virginia reached with linebacker Ahmad Brooks in August
didn't sit well with Armstrong. In a break from tradition, U.Va. said it would
admit Brooks, who failed to qualify academically as a Hylton High senior, in
January if he achieved the necessary standardized-test score.
Both players signed with the Cavaliers last winter. Armstrong wanted to enter
U.Va. at midyear, too, Shuman said, but apparently won't be allowed to do so.
Brooks, who's enrolled in Hargrave Military Academy's postgraduate program, has
raised his test score enough to meet NCAA standards, sources said yesterday.
BIG LOSS: Virginia lost 21-9 to Virginia Tech on Saturday. Having to play all
but 26 seconds of the second half without defensive end Chris Canty, a
second-team all-ACC pick, didn't help the Cavaliers' chances in Blacksburg.
The 6-7, 290-pound sophomore left Lane Stadium with his left arm in a sling.
Asked Sunday night if Canty's injury were similar to dislocated left elbow
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Koy Detmer sustained Nov. 25, Virginia coach Al
Groh said, "I think that's pretty accurate."
It's unclear whether Canty will be available for U.Va.'s bowl game.
AGONY OF DEFEAT: Like U.Va.'s other seniors, linebacker Merrill Robertson will
graduate without having beaten the Hokies. To say he was disappointed Saturday
would be an understatement.
"Same thing happened to me against Thomas Dale," said Robertson, an All-Metro
performer at L.C. Bird High, Dale's archrival. "Never beat them." - Jeff White
NCAA extends olive branch to two wobbling bowls
By Darren Rovell
ESPN.com
Two college bowl games were temporarily saved on Monday after the NCAA once
again extended its deadline for the bowls to show their financial solvency.
The Seattle Bowl and the Silicon Valley Football Classic did not file sufficient
letters of credit by Monday's deadline -- which was extended for the two bowls
when they missed the Nov. 1 target date. But sources close to the games
indicated the NCAA would extend the deadline into Tuesday afternoon to produce
some evidence that their respective banks will be able to support a $1.5 million
letter of credit.
The NCAA requests documentation in advance of the game to guarantee that payouts
of $750,000 per participating school will be made. If complete information
regarding the bowls' credit was not received by the NCAA on Friday, sources
indicated the bowls could be decertified.
Both bowl games are without a title sponsor and need to find a way to fund
losses in the event their bowl does not meet revenue projections. On Friday,
officials at a San Jose bank notified Silicon Valley Football Classic bowl
officials that the San Jose Visitor's and Convention Bureau -- which claimed
last year's bowl resulted in $8.2 million in local economic impact -- could not
be the sole underwriter since its annual budget was only $6 million.
On Monday, the Western Athletic Conference, which has already agreed to pay a
bowl sponsorship fee of $300,000 to maintain the bowl's financial health, became
the co-signer, said bowl spokesperson Karin Mast. Terry Daw, owner of the
privately-funded Seattle Bowl, said he expects to make Tuesday's deadline, after
he came up with the funds to make up the difference between money he will make
from the school ticket promises and the payouts.
"The reality is that most bowl games are run as non-profits," Daw said. "The
local bank or the chamber of commerce takes on the financial responsibility
based on goodwill. Each bowl has their own unique problems and the hardest thing
for us to do has been to get that letter."
For some conferences, the letter of credit is merely a formality, but others
wouldn't even think of sending their schools to bowls without a letter, even if
the NCAA would allow it.
"We're already a stakeholder in (the Silicon Valley Football Classic) so we
don't mind, but the opposing school and conference (the sixth choice from the
Pac-10 or an at-large bid) want to make sure that they'll get paid," said WAC
commissioner Karl Benson.
"The most meaningful criteria that the NCAA has for its bowl certification is
that a sponsoring organization can come up the letter of credit," Pac-10
commissioner Tom Hansen said. "If they don't have that, that's a pretty good
sign that the bowl isn't financially viable."
Hansen said it would be hard for a conference to allow a school to travel to a
bowl -- spending between $400,000 and $700,000 -- without the guarantee that it
would at least make up the money through a guaranteed payout.
"(Monday's) already extended deadline was a very generous goal," Hansen said.
"You can't give them that much more time because you have to book your charters,
hotel reservations and start selling tickets in good faith to the fans."
Tickets for the Seattle Bowl went on sale on Oct. 1, while Silicon Valley
Football Classic tickets went on sale at 1 p.m. on Monday.
Although the extension might seem too close to bowl time, sources told ESPN.com
that the Silicon Valley Football Classic filed their letter of credit with the
NCAA last year on Dec. 18 -- just 12 days before the bowl was played. The
Seattle Bowl is scheduled for Dec. 30 at 5:30 p.m. ET, while the Silicon Valley
Football Classic kicks off a day later at 3:30 p.m. ET.
"It's a no-brainer to get $1 million worth of ticket sales," said Chuck Shelton,
executive director of the Silicon Valley Football Classic, which will require
the Pac-10 school to purchase 10,000 tickets to the game. "Last year we did $1.2
(million)," Shelton said.
But sales could be slow for both games this year. On Nov. 23, Fresno State
knocked off San Jose State and accepted its third consecutive bid to the Silicon
Valley Classic. That's a three-hour drive for a David Carr-less team that
endured a disappointing season. Had San Jose State won the game, they would have
played the Silicon Valley Football Classic in their home stadium, much like the
WAC champion Boise State team will play in Bronco Stadium for the Humanitarian
Bowl.
Meanwhile, the Seattle Bowl could suffer from inviting the same school back for
the second straight game. Georgia Tech, which beat Stanford 24-14 in the
inaugural bowl last season, is predicted to make the 2,700-mile trek back to the
West Coast for the game once again this year. Daw said that Seattle houses an
"unusually large" fan base of Yellow Jackets fans thanks to the location of
nearby Microsoft.
Although companies located in Silicon Valley, such as Cisco and Hewlett-Packard,
reportedly have been interested in title sponsorship, the bowl game has never
had a title sponsor in its three years of existence.
"A title sponsor would certainly help us get better cash flow," said Shelton,
who is still searching for one with a month left before the game is played.
The Seattle Bowl signed video game company 989 Sports as the title sponsor less
than five days before last year's game, but does not have one this year.
"It wouldn't help us get our letter of credit any faster," Daw said. "Most
sponsors don't pay out any money until the game is played anyway."
| Subject: Important
Information About Fontel Mines |
| Posted by: maverickcav on
Mon Dec 2 2002 11:12:52 PM |
Message:
Well it’s that time of year again for the official VPI recruiting
disclaimer
Please attach this to all post regarding players that verbal to the
University of Virginia.
Official Virginia Tech Release:
(Insert Player Name Here) was not extended an official offer to play
collegiate athletics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University because:
Insert appropriate reason here
a) We knew he’d never qualify under the rigorous academic
standards applied to incoming student athletes at Virginia
Polytechnic Institute and State University
b) We already had 275 Super-Prep All-Americans on the depth
chart at that position.
c) This player was a Plan B player and we had previously filled
the need at his position
d) He found out we cussed at his momma.
e) He didn’t select Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State
University so he’s an idiot
f) WE BACKED OFF
g) All the above
In keeping with Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University’s
publicly stated policy of not recruiting verbally committed players
unless the player gives us a verbal authorization to continue to have
contact with him, we will no longer have further contact with (insert
Player Name Here)*.
*It should be noted that following this release, the staff contacted
(insert Player Name Here) to wish him a good weekend and asked if we
could call him later in the year to wish his dog happy birthday. He
said that would be fine so in accordance with our stated policy, we
will continue to recruit (insert Player Name Here) based on his
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U.Va. gets a big dose of reality
Published December 3 2002
Outrage is a' brewin' in Cavalier Nation. First the Gator Bowl jilts Virginia.
Then the Peach. Then the Tangerine.
How dare they! Can't they read the ACC standings? Don't they consider the
scoreboard?
Three words of advice to the faithful: Get over it.
Seriously, people. You can not be this naïve. The bowl system is corrupt.
Always has been, always will be.
The hypocrisy is amusing. Division I-A schools resist a playoff and suck up to
bowl reps. Then they profess shock, shock I tell you, when bowls make
self-serving decisions.
The self-serving began last week when the Gator Bowl invited North Carolina
State. N.C. State lost to Virginia 14-9. The Wolfpack finished fourth in the
ACC, while the Cavaliers tied Maryland for second.
Why N.C. State? Several reasons.
First, the Wolfpack lobbied hard for the Jacksonville, Fla.-based Gator. State
coach Chuck Amato is a former Florida State assistant and recruits the state
heavily.
Plus, the Wolfpack finished the regular season 10-3 and is ranked 17th
nationally. The Cavaliers are 8-5 and unranked.
Virginia athletic director Craig Littlepage and head coach Al Groh assailed
N.C. State's lame non-conference schedule, and they've got a point.
Massachusetts, East Tennessee State and Navy pale to Colorado State, Penn
State and Virginia Tech. But the Wolfpack's marquee victories (Texas Tech and
Florida State) are easier to sell than the Cavaliers' (N.C. State and
Maryland).
Finally, and perhaps most important, Gator officials chose N.C. State instead
of Virginia because they believed the Wolfpack would bring more fans to
Jacksonville. Stop the presses: Bowls value ticket sales more than fairness.
With its Atlanta alumni contingent, Virginia always sells beaucoup Peach Bowl
tickets. Still, the Peach opted for Maryland, a 48-13 loser to Virginia.
Again, several reasons. The Terps (10-3) won two more games than did the
Cavaliers and are ranked 21st. They haven't played in the Peach since 1973, an
absence that should translate to plenty of red New Year's Eve in the Georgia
Dome, the same arena in which Maryland won last season's national basketball
championship.
Like the Gator and Peach, the Tangerine Bowl is contractually obligated to
select an ACC team. Sunday it chose Clemson instead of Virginia.
Clemson? Didn't the Tigers (7-5) lose to the Cavaliers and tie for fifth in
the ACC? You betcha. But the Tangerine, which last year bypassed Clemson for
N.C. State, figured Clemson fans, most of whom reside in South Carolina, were
more likely to trek to Orlando for the game, especially with its Dec. 23 date.
And truth be told, Virginia's latest postseason suitor, the Continental Tire
Bowl, is infinitely more convenient than the Tangerine. The date Dec. 28 date
doesn't interfere with Christmas Eve, and Charlotte is an easier trip. Even if
Virginia falls to the Seattle Bowl on Dec. 30, it's a better gig than the
Tangerine.
Sure, the Cavaliers are getting hosed. But they're not alone.
Look at the Bowl Championship Series. As champion of the ACC, Florida State
(9-4) is assured a BCS bid, while either Iowa (11-1), Southern California
(10-2), or Notre Dame (10-2) will be left out if Washington State defeats UCLA
on Saturday.
But hey, no tears. Not for Iowa, Southern Cal or Virginia. And certainly not
for all-powerful Notre Dame.
Division I-A created this mess. Now its members must live with it.
David Teel can be reached at 247-4636 or by e-mail at
dteel@dailypress.com
Lousy system took Pack over Cavs
Who -- bowl? ACC? -- owes UVa. an apology?
GREGG DOYEL
Somebody owed Virginia an apology. That much is clear. The murky part is
figuring out who should have been first in line at the Cavaliers' football
offices last week, hat in hand, begging forgiveness after N.C. State took the
ACC's spot in the Gator Bowl.
The Wolfpack got the Gator Bowl bid before Virginia had even finished a
season that had been, by most measures, superior.
Record in ACC play? Virginia, 6-2 compared to 5-3 for N.C. State.
Head-to-head? Virginia, which defeated the Wolfpack 14-9.
Down the stretch? Virginia again, which won two of its last three games while
N.C. State limped home 1-3.
Overall win-loss record? Give that to N.C. State, at 10-3, but only because
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Strength of schedule? Virginia (8-5), by a lot.
But N.C. State is going to the Gator, the ACC's top bowl after the Bowl
Championship Series, while Virginia could come to Charlotte for the Continental
Tire Bowl but might get stuck in Seattle. For that someone owes Virginia an
apology -- and while we're at it, an apology to Maryland, too.
Like Virginia, the Terps had a better ACC record than N.C. State and beat the
Wolfpack. Unlike Virginia, Maryland played a harmless-enough non-conference
schedule to match N.C. State's 10-3 overall record.
Maryland is headed to the Peach Bowl. The reason Maryland couldn't go to the
Gator had something to do with the West Virginia-Pittsburgh game, among other
factors. You might be smart enough to understand a well-written explanation, but
I'm not smart enough to write it.
N.C. State might be the only involved party that isn't to blame for the Gator
Bowl fiasco, though it's hard to congratulate the Wolfpack with a straight face.
N.C. State played one of the worst non-conference schedules among the power
conferences, facing two Division I-AA teams (East Tennessee State and
Massachusetts), another with Division I-AA talent (Navy) and New Mexico or New
Mexico State -- like it matters which one.
Virginia scheduled one pastry (Akron) and four hunks of gristle (Penn State,
Virginia Tech, Colorado State and South Carolina).
The ACC isn't entirely to blame, though we're getting warmer. The ACC
facilitates the kind of back-room deal-making that allowed Clemson to buy its
way into the Humanitarian Bowl in 2001.
The ACC also allows its bowl affiliates too much leeway in their choice of
teams. Although Virginia finished second in the ACC and the Gator Bowl gets the
second ACC choice after the BCS, league rules allowed the Gator to pass over the
Cavaliers for any team that finished within a game of their 6-2 ACC record. If
that team is located four hours closer to the bowl's site in Jacksonville, Fla.,
well, that's why the rule exists.
The Gator Bowl isn't entirely to blame, though its sense of timing was
terrible. By inviting N.C. State last week, before Virginia could even finish
its season, the Gator Bowl was effectively raising a palm to the Cavaliers and
saying, "Talk to the hand 'cause the face don't want to hear it."
Or was the Gator Bowl raising a finger?
It didn't matter that Virginia could have won its last game against Virginia
Tech. Even at 9-4, with nine wins in their final 11 games, the Cavaliers simply
weren't going to be good enough to go to the Gator.
The Gator Bowl shares the same favorite color with ABC, Tostitos, Frank
Beamer and everyone else involved in major college football -- green. The Gator
Bowl clearly expects to make more money with N.C. State than Virginia.
The NCAA isn't entirely to blame, but let's go for it. By allowing its
Division I-A teams to schedule Division I-AA opponents, the NCAA facilitates a
system that rewards those with the softest schedules. By paying -- sorry,
playing -- two Division I-AA teams, N.C. State bought its bid to the Gator Bowl
more subtly, but just as surely, as Clemson bought its way into the 2001
Humanitarian Bowl.
Asked this season why his young team was playing such an ambitious schedule,
Virginia coach Al Groh acknowledged the error of his ways.
"I understand it's kind of out of vogue for the way some scheduling is done,"
Groh said. "Perhaps I need to wise up."
Someone does, but not Groh. The Gator Bowl is another reminder college
football isn't about fair play. It's about cold cash.
As for smoothing this whole thing over with Virginia, allow me: All parties
involved with the system that allowed the Gator to choose N.C. State are sorry.
They may even feel bad, too.
Efforts Rank Up There
But for No. 22 Virginia, There's Room to Improve
By Jim Reedy
Special to The Washington Post
Tuesday, December 3, 2002; Page D05
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Dec. 2 -- Virginia moved into the top 25 today after a win over
then-No. 15 Kentucky and a strong showing against then-No. 19 Indiana in the
Maui Invitational last week, but Coach Pete Gillen said the Cavaliers still have
plenty of work to do.
"We got some answers, but we still have a lot of different questions about our
players," Gillen said. "We're still trying to find ourselves. We're nowhere near
where we have to be to play in a great league like the ACC or where we want to
be. I think we have potential to be very good, but we're not there yet."
No. 22 Virginia (3-1) features four double-digit scorers, but Gillen is still
trying to settle a rotation that features four newcomers and three returning
sophomores in addition to senior all-American candidate Travis Watson.
Gillen's task -- figuring out who can do what -- has been complicated by several
players' inconsistencies. Sophomore small forward Devin Smith, for instance, had
16 points in Virginia's 86-72 win against Chaminade last Monday and scored 15 in
the 75-61 win over the Wildcats. But the junior college transfer, still rounding
into form after September knee surgery, made only 1 of 9 shots and scored two
points as the Cavaliers lost to the Hoosiers in Wednesday's tournament final,
70-63.
"His knee got a little sore and he didn't have as much explosion as far as
strength in the knee for the last game against Indiana," Gillen said. "But I
thought he did a great job. He did more than we expected at this stage, coming
off the surgery."
Sophomore point guard Keith Jenifer had perhaps the best game of his college
career against Kentucky. In 32 minutes, he had six assists and no turnovers
while scoring a career-high 13 points on 6-of-10 shooting. For the season, he
has 3.4 assists for every turnover. Yet he is shooting 29 percent overall,
thanks to a combined 2 for 18 in Virginia's other three games.
"When your point guard plays well, you play well," Gillen said. "Against
Kentucky, he played tremendous and helped us upset the Wildcats. Other games,
he's been up and down."
Smith, Jenifer and their teammates will get another opportunity to measure
themselves when they travel to No. 21 Michigan State (2-2) on Wednesday night.
The Cavaliers have not played three consecutive ranked teams away from home in
16 years and haven't ever played three consecutive ranked teams from outside the
ACC.
Virginia hosted the Spartans last season for the first time since 1949, but five
minutes into the second half the game was canceled. Condensation formed on the
court from the ice underneath, making it too slippery to play. The teams will
try again at MSU's Breslin Center, where the Spartans are 79-7 against
nonconference teams.
"Playing up there in East Lansing will be a very, very big hurdle for us,
because they're almost invincible up there," Gillen said. "It's very comparable
to [Duke's] Cameron Indoor Stadium."
Like Gillen, Michigan State Coach Tom Izzo sees plenty of room for improvement
after four games. After the Spartans lost to Villanova and Oklahoma State in
their last two games at the Great Alaska Shootout this weekend, Izzo said the
team's defense and ballhandling have to improve. Michigan State averages 17.8
assists and 16.8 turnovers per game.
Cavaliers Note: Gillen said he does not know when the team will reinstate
sophomore guard Jermaine Harper, who was suspended indefinitely after being
charged with driving under the influence on Nov. 12.
"We would like to have him back, but it's up to Jermaine," Gillen said. "We're
going to follow up to see if he's doing what he's supposed to be doing in class,
off the court . . . before we determine whether we'll invite him back."
Harper is scheduled to appear in court on Jan. 27.