
Could I get my five years back?
Paul Wiley
Published: Thursday, December 4 2008
Nov. 29, 2003. Virginia 35, Virginia Tech 21.
That day five years ago is the last time the Hoos bested the Hokies in football.
That day is separated from this one by 1,831 and one-fourth days (yay leap
years).
What were you doing Nov. 29, 2003? For me, it was two weeks after my 16th
birthday; it would be another three months before I even got my driver’s
license. For most of you graduating this year, it was your junior year of high
school.
President-elect Barack Obama was then Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, still 3.5
months from winning the Democratic primary for his U.S. Senate seat. U.S.
Senator-elect Mark Warner was still governor of the commonwealth, and
Congressman-elect Tom Perriello had just finished helping to depose an African
dictator.
Topping the Billboard charts was “Baby Boy,” by Beyoncé featuring Sean Paul, and
“Bad Santa” — starring Billy Bob Thornton, Bernie Mac and the late John Ritter —
had just opened in theaters across the country. Unfortunately, I’ve heard the
first; thankfully, I’ve never seen the second.
Prominent in the news that week were President Bush’s surprise Thanksgiving
visit to troops in Iraq, the relaunching of the USS Cole after completion of
repairs and the resignation of Georgian president Eduard Shevardnadze. OK, that
last one wasn’t all that prominent, but hey, it happened.
In 1,831.25 days, you could have climbed Mt. Everest 26 times. You could have
circumnavigated the globe, following the same timeline and itinerary as
Ferdinand Magellan — and have two years to spare. If you were able to maintain
Andy Green’s world land-speed record of 763 mph the entire time, you’d have
logged enough miles to go around the equator 1,346 times — though you probably
would have had to stop for gas.
Since Nov. 29, 2003, 10 teams have beaten the Hokies, including Boston College
thrice, and Miami and Florida State two times each. Because Tech joined the ACC
in 2004, we have never beaten the Hokies in football when a conference game was
on the line.
The same story doesn’t translate to almost any of Virginia’s other sports.
Besides a 13-6 edge in softball, Virginia Tech trails in every other sport. In
women’s soccer, the maroon and orange were 0-5 until this year’s two close
upsets, and in baseball, the Hokies have managed to post a big, whopping goose
egg, going 0-10 on the diamond. And they don’t even have men’s lacrosse, so I
guess that’s Them 0, Us Infinity.
But perhaps it’s the talent to blame. Surely with such a streak of on-field
success, the better players have always won out. They were just plain better, so
there’s no reason to complain.
In the NFL Drafts from 2004 — to include those who played in the 2003 Virginia
victory — to 2008, Hoos have been picked in the first round four times. Only
three Hokie players have been picked during that same span. DeAngelo Hall went
at No. 8 in the 2004 draft, the highest position of any Tech player during those
five drafts. Virginia’s D’Brickashaw Ferguson was No. 4 in 2006, and super-freak
Chris Long was this year’s No. 2.
Aside from the headliners, the average draft data sorts out about the same. Of
the 28 Tech players taken, the average draft round was early fourth, the average
pick 122nd. For the 18 Cavaliers, the round was the same, the average pick only
10 spots lower.
If it isn’t the players, what about the coaches? That may well be one source of
the problem. For Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer, he’s had the same two
coordinators for several years: Bryan Stinespring on offense and Bud Foster on
defense. Both were there, in those positions, in 2003, and both are still there
today.
Here in Charlottesville, however, we’ve faced a coaching carousel. In 2003, Ron
Prince was the offensive coordinator, and Al Golden ran the defense. Both left
in 2005, handing the offensive reins to Mike Groh and the defensive controls to
Mike London. London then took his current position at the University of
Richmond, and Bob Pruett stepped into his role. Four new coaches, versus Tech’s
status quo.
Whatever the reasons, we’ve got to do something, and fast. Our next shot might
come as soon as 2,171.5 days since the last win. All of us have a relative or
co-worker or, God forbid, a boss who roots for Tech, and it would be really
great if after all that time, they’d finally shut up.
Two straight classes of Virginia graduates will have never seen a Cavalier
victory against the Hokies during their undergraduate years. Rivalries are
supposed to have some back-and-forth. Pretty soon, this will just become
ritualistic flagellation.
So, whoever out there can hear this, take the lessons of this year to heart.
Call it the Wildhoo, the Hoocat, whatever, just use somebody who can make it
work again next year. We had Tech on the ropes. Next year, let’s finish the job.
Fingers crossed, it’ll happen before my 13-year-old cousin is old enough to
celebrate with a beer.
Cavaliers tumble into long break
By Whitey Reid
Published: December 3, 2008
One of the positives from Virginia’s 66-56 loss to Minnesota in the ACC/Big 10
Challenge on Tuesday night?
Not a lot of people probably witnessed it.
With a start time of 9:30 p.m., many Cavalier fans were likely asleep by the
time the game ended. In addition, no local media were on hand in Minnesota.
Virginia, which doesn’t play again until a Dec. 17 home game versus Longwood,
continued its struggles, dropping its third straight game.
“The game played out exactly how I thought it would,” Virginia coach Dave Leitao
told virginiasports.com. “Minnesota was very well coached and efficient with the
ball. I knew that at the end of the night it would come down to which team would
make the least mistakes. Minnesota was that team.”
Those who didn’t catch the game on ESPN2 didn’t miss very much.
Virginia (3-3), which had dropped games to Liberty and Syracuse, committed 19
turnovers and shot just 31 percent from the field.
“We’ve seen pressure defense already this season but Minnesota was more
aggressive,” Leitao said. “We didn’t attack the pressure the way we should have
and that made them more aggressive with the pressure. The crowd got into it more
and it put us back on our heels.”
Guard Sylven Landesberg, who came into the game averaging 20.8 points, looked
out of sync from the get-go. The freshman was just 1 of 11 from the field and
finished with a season-low of 10 points.
Meanwhile, starting forward Mike Scott was held scoreless for the first time in
his career.
Virginia’s brightest spot was Jamil Tucker, who had a team-high 12 points on 4
of 6 shooting from 3-point range. The junior’s performance kept the Cavaliers
from getting blown out.
Sammy Zeglinski continued his solid play, scoring 10 points, although he had
five turnovers.
Mamadi Diane, who had gone 1 of 18 in his previous three games, showed signs of
breaking out of his stupor. In the first half, he had a nice block that resulted
in a breakaway dunk. However, he was a non-factor after the intermission and
finished with just four points in 15 minutes off the bench.
One of the surprises from Tuesday was sophomore Jeff Jones not getting into the
game, although a closer look at his recent numbers may explain why. Jones had
shot just 7 of 28 from the field, including 4 of 17 from 3-point range in his
previous five games. The DNP was the first of his career.
“I think a lot of it was coach’s decision and matchups,” said Virginia assistant
coach Bill Courtney, who filled in for Leitao on his “Cavalier Call-In” show on
Wednesday evening. “I don’t think it was any negative toward Jeff or anything he
had done, but it was what was best to win the basketball game.”
Virginia senior Tunji Soroye was also a DNP. Courtney said that Soroye had
missed a couple of practices heading into the game and may not have been
physically ready to play.
Soroye may have helped on the defensive end where Virginia had trouble with
Minnesota freshman Colton Iverson (14 points, seven rebounds).
“It is a good win for us against a quality team,” said Minnesota coach Tubby
Smith. “They are a very young team similar to us. We did the things we had to do
to get the win. We played defense, we were focused, and we were a little anxious
with our shot selection early on. The key was that we eventually settled down.”
An interesting sidebar to the game was Virginia facing Ralph Sampson III, the
son of the former UVa legend. Sampson, who was coming off a career-high of 12
points in Minnesota’s last game, didn’t score but had two blocks.
UVa’s road stint keeps on rolling
By Jay Jenkins
Published: December 3, 2008
Debbie Ryan’s travel agent may be due a Christmas bonus.
Over the past 18 days, the Virginia women’s basketball coach has covered three
states and thousands of miles, playing five games outside of Central Virginia.
The journey continues tonight — the 20th-ranked Cavaliers (5-2) will play at
Illinois (3-4) at 8:30 p.m. in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge at Assembly Hall.
Due to the brutal travel schedule, Ryan is left merely to assume that her squad
will be energized for the contest. That was not the case on Sunday as the
Cavaliers dropped the finale of the WBCA Classic to Gonzaga, 69-62, in
Milwaukee.
“It’s not so much that as it was the first-years playing their fifth game in 10
days and four of them were on the road,” Ryan said. “It is hard to explain but
we have played nothing but quality opponents, so frankly they were just tired.”
The loss to Gonzaga came less than 24 hours after Virginia dispatched tournament
host Marquette with a spirited rally. The Cavaliers, who trailed by 14 points
with 16:32 left in the game, went on a 22-6 run to take the lead and eventually
the win.
“We really played with so much emotion in the Marquette game and just really
knew when it was time to take the game over,” Ryan said. “We knew when the
pressure point in the game was. We knew how to push the pressure point and just
really made a great run to finish the game.
“The freshmen were on point and hitting great free throws and setting screens
and Monica Wright was Monica Wright at the end.”
Having also upended Utah in the event, the emotion of the road win did not carry
over for the Cavaliers, something that was also said after the team beat vaunted
Tennessee and lost four days later at Old Dominion.
“In the Gonzaga game we were a little sluggish,” Ryan said. “We just could not
hit a shot and didn’t have much in terms of legs, at least the younger kids
didn’t. The older players seemed to be a little bit better, but I am relying on
a couple of freshmen for points.
“I think it was a good lesson. That’s exactly the way that the ACC Tournament
will be.”
Facing Gonzaga and its unique defensive scheme should help prepare Virginia for
ACC play.
“Gonzaga played a 3-2 zone and we weren’t as patient as we could have been,
although we got some pretty good shots and we weren’t knocking them down,” Ryan
said. “I think it a great lesson that you have to play through those things. You
have to play though a cold or a sinus infection. You have to play through that.
It is not high school anymore.”
Virginia will be facing Illinois for the first time since winning a showdown in
the first round of the NCAA tournament in 2003.
The Illini have struggled of late, losing four straight games. The most recent
setback, a 79-52 loss to Maryland, came on Friday in the Caribbean Challenge in
Cancun, Mexico.
Groh update
Jeff White
Dec 04, 2008
CHARLOTTESVILLE – If you’ve spent any time today reading message boards devoted
to U.Va. athletics – those on TheSabre.com and CavsCorner.com in particular –
you’re probably convinced that the Al Groh era is over.
And maybe Groh has, indeed, coached his last game at Virginia. But I’ve been
digging and calling and digging all day, and none of the many people I’ve spoken
to – at least those whom I consider to be reliable sources – believes a final
decision has been made on Groh, whose eighth season as Virginia’s football coach
ended last weekend with a 17-14 loss to Virginia Tech.
I have learned, however, that U.Va.’s board of visitors has told
athletic-department officials that they may borrow money from the school to pay
for Groh’s buyout if they decide a change is required.
Under the terms of Groh’s contract, U.Va. would owe him about $6 million if it
fired him before next season.
In an e-mail exchange with me Nov. 9 – the day after U.Va.’s loss at Wake
Forest—athletic director Craig Littlepage was unequivocal when I asked him about
the 2009 football season.
“Al Groh will be our head coach,“ Littlepage said, even if U.Va. lost its final
two regular-season games and finished with a losing record.
Which, of course, is what happened. And now, Littlepage’s comments
notwithstanding, many people close to the football program no longer seem
convinced that Groh will return for a ninth season as coach at his alma mater.
About 28 hours after U.Va. lost in Blacksburg to finish 5-7 for the second time
in three years. Littlepage announced Sunday night that Groh’s contract would not
be extended through Dec. 31, 2012. Littlepage also said in his statement that
he’d be meeting with Groh “in the next 48 hours to conduct a year-review of the
football program.“
One of the issues to be discussed was offensive coordinator Mike Groh’s future
on his father’s staff. How those meetings have gone, I can’t say for sure, but
various Internet reports suggest the two parties remain far apart. Littlepage
e-mailed me tonight to decline comment, and Al Groh didn’t respond to an e-mail
I sent him seeking comment.
So what happens next? I’m not sure, but I’d bet that Groh’s status will be
clarified tomorrow. Which begins in about 45 minutes.
Good night.
Stalemate?
Doug Doughty/Roanoke Times
The absence of a statement confirming Al Groh’s return as
Virginia football coach in 2009 has revived memories of his Wake Forest coaching
tenure.
Groh’s last season as Wake Forest head coach was 1986, when the Deacons finished
5-6, but Groh didn’t resign as coach until nearly two months after the season.
Groh could have returned as Wake coach in 1987 but wanted more of a long-term
commitment than athletic director Dr. Gene Hooks was prepared to offer. That was
the year when Groh’s name was being named in connection with the Virginia Tech
opening, another source of friction.
Virginia athletic director Craig Littlepage announced Sunday that he would not
be exercising the rollover clause in Groh’s contract and that he would meet with
Groh within 48 hours to conduct a year-end review of the football program.
*An annual 5-percent cost-of-living increase in Groh’s contract would put him
over $2 million for the first time since he signed a $1.7-million per-year deal
in 2005. Groh is slated to make $2.07 million in 2009, $2.17 million in 2010 and
$2.28 million in 2011.
The cost of a buyout would be $6.51 million.
Sources: Groh to return as coach
By Jerry Ratcliffe
Published: December 4, 2008
Sources said Wednesday night that Virginia head football coach Al Groh will
continue to guide the Cavaliers for the 2009 season, countering speculation
about whether the embattled coach would return.
Reports circulating earlier Wednesday that the university’s Board of Visitors
had approved a buyout of the remaining three years of Groh’s contract and that
UVa Director of Athletics Craig Littlepage was seeking contributors for that
buyout were false, according to sources who requested to remain anonymous.
Littlepage issued a statement Sunday night that UVa had declined to extend
Groh’s contract with a customary one-year rollover. The decision came on the
heels of the Cavaliers’ dramatic 17-14 loss to Atlantic Coast Conference Coastal
Division champion Virginia Tech in Blacksburg the day before.
In that same statement, Littlepage said that he would meet with Groh within 48
hours to review the football program and added he would have no further comment
about Groh’s contract or the review process of the program.
However, sources confirmed that Groh would return for his ninth season as
Virginia’s coach, which equals Frank Murray (1937-45) for the second-longest
tenure in the program’s 119-year history. Groh, who owns the second-most wins of
any UVa football coach, has a 56-44 record at his alma mater, including a 5-7
finish this season, the second losing season in the past three years.
When reached Wednesday night, Groh declined to comment on what sources had told
The Daily Progress concerning him being retained.
“It serves no purpose for me to get involved in any discussion other than I’m
working diligently to get ready for recruiting and for next season,” Groh said.
The coach’s attorney, Neil M. Cornrich, said he wasn’t aware of any official
move to buy out Groh’s contract, which runs through Dec. 31, 2011.
“If Al Groh was having those kinds of discussions, I would know it, and I don’t
know that,” Cornrich said.
Groh was the ACC Coach of the Year in 2007 when his team finished 9-4 and lost
to Texas Tech in the Gator Bowl. It was the second time that Groh had won that
honor at UVa.
There remains speculation that Groh may make some personnel changes in his
coaching staff, which includes his son, Mike, a former UVa quarterback who has
served as the team’s offensive coordinator for the past three seasons.
Groh’s original contract included compensation of $1.7 million annually with a
cost of living increase that approached $2 million this year.
Littlepage declined to comment Wednesday night.